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Closure of St Johns College - BigSmokeBlue - 22-05-2022
Not sure if anyone picked up the news last week that St Johns college is closing its doors for good.
Got me thinking, what happens to the school playing fields? Ideal for a training ground and academy. Or dare I say a new stadium? Just need to get rid of those Brent Geese!
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pompeyg100 - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 09:46 AM)BigSmokeBlue Wrote: Not sure if anyone picked up the news last week that St Johns college is closing its doors for good.
Got me thinking, what happens to the school playing fields? Ideal for a training ground and academy. Or dare I say a new stadium? Just need to get rid of those Brent Geese!
It was all over Twitter last week and Andrew Moon reported the club were aware.
Could the club outbid a housing developer?
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pedalo_menders - 22-05-2022
The playing fields would be a great location for a trainimg ground / academy. Then you'd build on the Hilsea site.
St John's would be an awful location for a stadium though. Not a pub for miles!
RE: Closure of St Johns College - exgaffer - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 10:19 AM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: The playing fields would be a great location for a trainimg ground / academy. Then you'd build on the Hilsea site.
St John's would be an awful location for a stadium though. Not a pub for miles!
Dead right Pedalo, the debate over Farlington has been done to death and the consensus was that it was not suitable.
As you say, no pubs in the area, no rail station nearby and difficulty getting cars out of the car park in a reasonable time frame.
It would force everyone to drive or take buses to the stadium and a fair number of those who walk to the ground now probably wouldn’t bother.
Also too exposed to the elements on a wet winter’s evening.
A thoroughly BAD idea.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - TBP - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 10:50 AM)exgaffer Wrote:(22-05-2022, 10:19 AM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: The playing fields would be a great location for a trainimg ground / academy. Then you'd build on the Hilsea site.
St John's would be an awful location for a stadium though. Not a pub for miles!
Dead right Pedalo, the debate over Farlington has been done to death and the consensus was that it was not suitable.
As you say, no pubs in the area, no rail station nearby and difficulty getting cars out of the car park in a reasonable time frame.
It would force everyone to drive or take buses to the stadium and a fair number of those who walk to the ground now probably wouldn’t bother.
Also too exposed to the elements on a wet winter’s evening.
A thoroughly BAD idea.
The railway runs alongside, so a new station could be built, (not the first Farlington station) but the rest of your argument is valid.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - slayer - 22-05-2022
Too expensive for the Eisners and their tiny arms
RE: Closure of St Johns College - exgaffer - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 02:15 PM)TBP Wrote:(22-05-2022, 10:50 AM)exgaffer Wrote:(22-05-2022, 10:19 AM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: The playing fields would be a great location for a trainimg ground / academy. Then you'd build on the Hilsea site.
St John's would be an awful location for a stadium though. Not a pub for miles!
Dead right Pedalo, the debate over Farlington has been done to death and the consensus was that it was not suitable.
As you say, no pubs in the area, no rail station nearby and difficulty getting cars out of the car park in a reasonable time frame.
It would force everyone to drive or take buses to the stadium and a fair number of those who walk to the ground now probably wouldn’t bother.
Also too exposed to the elements on a wet winter’s evening.
A thoroughly BAD idea.
The railway runs alongside, so a new station could be built, (not the first Farlington station) but the rest of your argument is valid.
Yes very true TBP, but taking into account the saga between Pompey and Network Rail regarding the bridge from Fratton, how confident are you that such a station would be built?
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pedalo_menders - 22-05-2022
Asking the Eisners to coordinate building an entire train station would be like asking my cat to complete the times cryptic crossword.
Steps.
walkway.
Steps.
Thats it. The current barrier to expanding capacity, laid out in its components. Too difficult, expensive or complicated for our owners across the pond to manage unfortunately.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pompeyg100 - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 04:16 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: Asking the Eisners to coordinate building an entire train station would be like asking my cat to complete the times cryptic crossword.
Steps.
walkway.
Steps.
Thats it. The current barrier to expanding capacity, laid out in its components. Too difficult, expensive or complicated for our owners across the pond to manage unfortunately.
It would take a special kind of moron to think the Eisners are that involved in any building work.
Step forward Pedalo.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pedalo_menders - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 05:15 PM)Pompeyg100 Wrote:(22-05-2022, 04:16 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: Asking the Eisners to coordinate building an entire train station would be like asking my cat to complete the times cryptic crossword.
Steps.
walkway.
Steps.
Thats it. The current barrier to expanding capacity, laid out in its components. Too difficult, expensive or complicated for our owners across the pond to manage unfortunately.
It would take a special kind of moron to think the Eisners are that involved in any building work.
Step forward Pedalo.
Takes a certain kind of moron to think an owner shouldn't take that level of interest in an asset. Step forward g100
RE: Closure of St Johns College - scouse - 22-05-2022
Calm dain calm dain.
Anyway, re: Farlington; the railway goes right past St Fairies and I always thought it wouldn't have been any trouble to put a halt in for match days. Instead they bus people from Sc*m Central. Probably hidden factors that we're unaware of.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pompeyg100 - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 06:02 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote:(22-05-2022, 05:15 PM)Pompeyg100 Wrote:(22-05-2022, 04:16 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: Asking the Eisners to coordinate building an entire train station would be like asking my cat to complete the times cryptic crossword.
Steps.
walkway.
Steps.
Thats it. The current barrier to expanding capacity, laid out in its components. Too difficult, expensive or complicated for our owners across the pond to manage unfortunately.
It would take a special kind of moron to think the Eisners are that involved in any building work.
Step forward Pedalo.
Takes a certain kind of moron to think an owner shouldn't take that level of interest in an asset. Step forward g100
They pay people to do that you moron. They aren’t running a fruit and veg stall. You don’t like them, that’s obvious but don’t keep making yourself look such a d1ck.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Tufnell_Chimes - 22-05-2022
Jeez, I wasn’t expecting to see this level of animosity up here in the serious bit.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Hammie - 22-05-2022
far more like to have houses built on it, with 8 million of our population currently born outside the UK that's about 3 million new houses required just to keep up.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Tufnell_Chimes - 22-05-2022
Careful Hammie, there’s rules up here.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Hammie - 22-05-2022
I only stated government statistics which are leading to a policy forcing councils to build where they don't want to. Going to MK the drive to the ground from the M1 was shocking for the new build houses and warehouses that surround the place. 3 or 4 million houses are an awful lot especially at a time when we need to be very careful about growing extra food to feed ourselves with Putin putting the wheat supply in lockdown!
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Hammie - 22-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 06:24 PM)scouse Wrote: Calm dain calm dain.
Anyway, re: Farlington; the railway goes right past St Fairies and I always thought it wouldn't have been any trouble to put a halt in for match days. Instead they bus people from Sc*m Central. Probably hidden factors that we're unaware of.
seems to me that expecting the privately owned railways or publicly owned railtrack to do anything anywhere is pretty much a pipe dream unless the government is prepared to pay for it.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - scouse - 23-05-2022
Iz rite la! Seems like there is investment available for infrastructure in London but not anywhere else. White elephant vanity projects like HS2 don't really help very much and may be obsolete before they are even finished. This belongs in the politics forum really, sorry 'bout that!
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Tufnell_Chimes - 23-05-2022
johnson used up the entire UK bridge budget when he was London mayor - £43m without laying a brick.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pedalo_menders - 23-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 07:02 PM)Pompeyg100 Wrote:(22-05-2022, 06:02 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote:(22-05-2022, 05:15 PM)Pompeyg100 Wrote:(22-05-2022, 04:16 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: Asking the Eisners to coordinate building an entire train station would be like asking my cat to complete the times cryptic crossword.
Steps.
walkway.
Steps.
Thats it. The current barrier to expanding capacity, laid out in its components. Too difficult, expensive or complicated for our owners across the pond to manage unfortunately.
It would take a special kind of moron to think the Eisners are that involved in any building work.
Step forward Pedalo.
Takes a certain kind of moron to think an owner shouldn't take that level of interest in an asset. Step forward g100
They pay people to do that you moron. They aren’t running a fruit and veg stall. You don’t like them, that’s obvious but don’t keep making yourself look such a d1ck.
Ah yes, so they pay someone to not tell them about it. Genius. I bow to your superior business incite. No amount of name calling is going to make your point make more sense g100.
In case you weren't aware: it's OK to criticise the owners where they have made mistakes. Doesn't mean you don't have the clubs best interest at heart. Quite the opposite. We have to hold them to a high standard.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - mikey393 - 23-05-2022
(22-05-2022, 09:49 PM)Hammie Wrote:(22-05-2022, 06:24 PM)scouse Wrote: Calm dain calm dain.
Anyway, re: Farlington; the railway goes right past St Fairies and I always thought it wouldn't have been any trouble to put a halt in for match days. Instead they bus people from Sc*m Central. Probably hidden factors that we're unaware of.
seems to me that expecting the privately owned railways or publicly owned railtrack to do anything anywhere is pretty much a pipe dream unless the government is prepared to pay for it.
Maybe the club pay half & BR the other half?
RE: Closure of St Johns College - mikey393 - 23-05-2022
Also, sad to see the school close if it's definite as quite a few pupils in Portsmouth received scholarships to attend. Both Oxlade - Chamberlain boys attended as well.
RE: Closure of St Johns College - Pompeyg100 - 23-05-2022
(23-05-2022, 04:52 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote:(22-05-2022, 07:02 PM)Pompeyg100 Wrote:(22-05-2022, 06:02 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote:(22-05-2022, 05:15 PM)Pompeyg100 Wrote:(22-05-2022, 04:16 PM)Pedalo_menders Wrote: Asking the Eisners to coordinate building an entire train station would be like asking my cat to complete the times cryptic crossword.
Steps.
walkway.
Steps.
Thats it. The current barrier to expanding capacity, laid out in its components. Too difficult, expensive or complicated for our owners across the pond to manage unfortunately.
It would take a special kind of moron to think the Eisners are that involved in any building work.
Step forward Pedalo.
Takes a certain kind of moron to think an owner shouldn't take that level of interest in an asset. Step forward g100
They pay people to do that you moron. They aren’t running a fruit and veg stall. You don’t like them, that’s obvious but don’t keep making yourself look such a d1ck.
Ah yes, so they pay someone to not tell them about it. Genius. I bow to your superior business incite. No amount of name calling is going to make your point make more sense g100.
In case you weren't aware: it's OK to criticise the owners where they have made mistakes. Doesn't mean you don't have the clubs best interest at heart. Quite the opposite. We have to hold them to a high standard.
Yes it is OK, what mistakes have they made? If I could be arsed I would go through your moronic posts of drivel but I can’t.
There are specialist contractors who will advise them. I mean you could be right but they are billionaires and you spend your time on a message board hating on them.