15-01-2022, 08:58 PM
All ran very smoothly.
FP plan B Covid measures
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15-01-2022, 08:58 PM
All ran very smoothly.
15-01-2022, 09:58 PM
It was a joke really. All you had to do was show a picture of a QR code, which they didn't scan or otherwise verify in any way. It could have been out of date, or somone else's, or fake, but whatever! Welcome! What's the point of that?
16-01-2022, 11:04 AM
It went smoothly because it was very light touch, as DB said, any old QR code would have sufficed.
Good to see mask wearing well below 1%, ridiculous rule.
16-01-2022, 11:26 PM
I walked in with no queue via frogmore road at 1440, showed a print screen of my QT code to some woman, she eye balled it and waved me on
17-01-2022, 09:08 AM
(16-01-2022, 11:26 PM)scumslayer Wrote: I walked in with no queue via frogmore road at 1440, showed a print screen of my QT code to some woman, she eye balled it and waved me on Same with me SS, arrived at our usual time and breezed in. They glanced at my QR code but I get the feeling I could have showed them any old QR code and got in. Observance of the mask wearing edict was, pleasingly, non existent too. It’s a farce anyway, so the sooner we get back to normal the better. Roll on the end of all this nonsense. I get the feeling that climate change will be the next boogeyman, they’ll be checking us for meat products on the way in ffs.
17-01-2022, 10:46 AM
Hear hear Gaffer. Roll on the end of all this nonsense. Just a shame for the millions who've died from it. How many dropped off this mortal coil before their time? I see life expectancy has been reduced quite severely in almost all countries since it started.
17-01-2022, 11:17 AM
(17-01-2022, 10:46 AM)dsmg Wrote: Hear hear Gaffer. Roll on the end of all this nonsense. Just a shame for the millions who've died from it. How many dropped off this mortal coil before their time? I see life expectancy has been reduced quite severely in almost all countries since it started. The average age of death with (not necessarily from) COVID is 82 dsmg, I’ll be amazed if I live that long. The generational damage that has been done to the country by the totally disproportionate COVID measures is completely inexcusable imo. The health service has been crippled by turning it into the COVID service and the deaths resulting from that will dwarf any death toll related to the virus. I am old and have co-morbidities but am I happy that the youth of the country (most of whom were at no risk from the virus) have had their lives ruined and their life chances damaged to protect the likes of me? No I am not. It’s up to me to protect myself having taken medical advice, it is NOT the job of the state. Life is not just about the number of years you exist, it is about the life you can lead and the experiences you can have. Shutting down life in a futile attempt to stop a virus is moronic, we won’t get those years back. No country has seen success from lockdowns and masks, as Australia is starting to discover. The final obscenity was Knighthoods for the clowns who inflicted this on us, history will show what a total travesty that was.
17-01-2022, 01:16 PM
(17-01-2022, 11:17 AM)exgaffer Wrote:(17-01-2022, 10:46 AM)dsmg Wrote: Hear hear Gaffer. Roll on the end of all this nonsense. Just a shame for the millions who've died from it. How many dropped off this mortal coil before their time? I see life expectancy has been reduced quite severely in almost all countries since it started. The last sentence, particularly.
17-01-2022, 01:34 PM
To be fair to the scientists they never had any power to inflict anything on anybody. Only the government can do that, and only they can choose whether or not to accept the scientific advice. The scientists job is just to advise what is best for the pandemic and NHS, and they worked very hard at that role under intense pressure. But they made no decisions about what to inflict on anybody.
17-01-2022, 01:41 PM
...and they wouldn't share the data with the opposition.
17-01-2022, 01:46 PM
(17-01-2022, 01:34 PM)DeepBlue Wrote: To be fair to the scientists they never had any power to inflict anything on anybody. Only the government can do that, and only they can choose whether or not to accept the scientific advice. The scientists job is just to advise what is best for the pandemic and NHS, and they worked very hard at that role under intense pressure. But they made no decisions about what to inflict on anybody. There were many other scientists who had different views but they weren’t listened to were they? As for the ‘didn’t have the power’ bollox, they made recommendations, which they pushed in the media, making it very difficult for government to go against them. It would have taken bottle to resist their recommendations, usually based on flawed modelling, and Boris didn’t have it.
17-01-2022, 01:57 PM
And therefore all your complaints should be against Boris, no-one else.
17-01-2022, 02:23 PM
(17-01-2022, 01:34 PM)DeepBlue Wrote: To be fair to the scientists they never had any power to inflict anything on anybody. Only the government can do that, and only they can choose whether or not to accept the scientific advice. The scientists job is just to advise what is best for the pandemic and NHS, and they worked very hard at that role under intense pressure. But they made no decisions about what to inflict on anybody. They clearly took to their role in the limelight like ducks to water. They should be prosecuted for terrorising the population with their wildly inaccurate predictions, which, incidentally they knew the government would base their response on. They're a fucking disgrace and need locking up.
17-01-2022, 03:17 PM
(17-01-2022, 02:23 PM)Jizbag Wrote:(17-01-2022, 01:34 PM)DeepBlue Wrote: To be fair to the scientists they never had any power to inflict anything on anybody. Only the government can do that, and only they can choose whether or not to accept the scientific advice. The scientists job is just to advise what is best for the pandemic and NHS, and they worked very hard at that role under intense pressure. But they made no decisions about what to inflict on anybody. You have absolutely no evidence to prove that any predictions were wildly inaccurate, so you cannot present that opinion as a fact like that. Equally there is no way of knowing what would have happened with other choices (other than looking at somewhere like Brazil).
17-01-2022, 03:36 PM
Oh don't be ridiculous Deep. They were all wildly inaccurate, it's been acknowledged all over the place.
17-01-2022, 03:42 PM
Deep, when are you going to realise that the predictions were wildly inaccurate because Ex Gaffer and Jizbag say they are.
17-01-2022, 03:47 PM
"their wildly inaccurate predictions - They're a fucking disgrace and need locking up."
I wonder what else we can apply this response to
17-01-2022, 04:15 PM
(17-01-2022, 03:36 PM)Jizbag Wrote: Oh don't be ridiculous Deep. They were all wildly inaccurate, it's been acknowledged all over the place. And those 'acknowledgements' that you claim are as meaningless as anyone else's opinion. A prediction of what would have happened if something else had been done cannot be proved or disproved, so by definition cannot be wildly inaccurate. To go all JVT and use a football analogy it a bit like saying if we had kept Hawkins and not replaced him with Harrison we would have got more points. I might believe that, and I could produce a mathematical model based on points per game thay may support the view but I cannot prove it would have been the case so can't state it as fact, only opinion. But no-one else can prove it to be wrong, let alone claim it to be wildly inaccurate.
17-01-2022, 04:25 PM
So you're saying they didn't make wildly inaccurate predictions then?
17-01-2022, 04:28 PM
Oh god I've got the lefty club!!!
17-01-2022, 04:49 PM
(17-01-2022, 04:25 PM)Jizbag Wrote: So you're saying they didn't make wildly inaccurate predictions then? FFS read what I'm saying. I'm saying no-one can prove either way if they were wildly inaccurate or not so no-one can make that claim. My opinon that they were probably more accurate that you think they were is as totally meaningless as your opinion. Both are just pure conjecture.
17-01-2022, 06:14 PM
(17-01-2022, 01:46 PM)exgaffer Wrote:(17-01-2022, 01:34 PM)DeepBlue Wrote: To be fair to the scientists they never had any power to inflict anything on anybody. Only the government can do that, and only they can choose whether or not to accept the scientific advice. The scientists job is just to advise what is best for the pandemic and NHS, and they worked very hard at that role under intense pressure. But they made no decisions about what to inflict on anybody. The scientists never really had that much influence otherwise this Christmas and Jan we wouldve been in lockdown again. Instead we couldn't coz bojo and his buds were caught covid partying. Cheltenham 2020 would never happen, the delaying of lockdown for Boris' latest engagement party etc etc. The knighthoods were simply designed to stop them from ever speaking the truth of how politicians managed to kill large numbers of they're own citizens whilst making a ton of cash for themselves. |
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