[essentialmix75]

Incoming

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If the government didn't support it, they would have been moved on.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Don't think so, fuel crises have a habit of changing governments. If we've been manipulated in any way we've been manipulated to believe that the car is the key to an elevated personal freedom and that public transport is for plebs. Once that's been bought into, how can you take the fuel away - its heroin. Course people are going to get mad, if the LibDems said in their manifesto they'd remove all tax from fuel they'd leave the tories and labour for dust.

[essentialmix75]

"believe that the car is the key to an elevated personal freedom"

It is, they are driving the public off the road, by design driving only for the rich.

To many people need the car for work, public transport is not an option.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Public transport is only not on option because its been starved of investment. TFL works great for the nine million of us up here.

[essentialmix75]

London is not a typical city, a lot of the jobs in London are office jobs. It's one of the financial hubs of the world. When you get out of the London bubble most Uk city's are working class, Plumbers, Sparkie's, Brickie's, Carpenters, Ground workers, Roofers, Delivery drivers etc. Do you think that these trades could work via public transport?.

When will the working class people wake up to the ruling class attack on them?. I think very soon.

Listen to the Snobs blocking the fuel, it's the working class who they are attacking.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

"Plumbers, Sparkie's, Brickie's, Carpenters, Ground workers, Roofers, Delivery drivers"

Yep, have those too. And once those people driving to single place of work are on public transport there's more room for them.

[Ain’t got a Danny]

If you ever travel on some tube lines between 5am and 7 am you’ll see scores of construction workers going to the various redevelopment sites near Canary Wharf and the City. Plus those working on cross rail.

There’s no where to park that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg. Even blokes driving up from places like Pompey used to park at places like Wimbledon and take the tube in to town. Tools left on the job where possible.

[essentialmix75]

London is a prime example of the Rich vs Poor

Rich just drive around as normal, pay the parking fees as non-doms.

The poor little man in the street has to waste more of he's life getting to and from he's slave job. And be taxed to the hills for the joy.

Sitework, is all well and good, but try being a plumber and having multiple call outs. Or any trade that does repairs on existing property.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Have you just woken up to the notion that there is inequality in the world? What were you thinking for all those years before this lightbulb moment?

[essentialmix75]

I don't hate 'inequality', if everyone is playing the same game. It's when the government aids some and not others.

We need small government. They only help the rich and rob the poor.

If you are not born into money, the only way you can make a better life is by working. And with tax on labour this makes it a very hard job, and getting harder each generation.

With endless money printing all the money is flowing to the top. Just like the end of a game of monopoly.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Its the tories, what were you expecting. They've been gaslighting us for generations.

[essentialmix75]

I don't know how you can just say this is the Tories?.

"I don't hate 'inequality', if everyone is playing the same game. It's when the government aids some and not others.

We need small government. They only help the rich and rob the poor.

If you are not born into money, the only way you can make a better life is by working. And with tax on labour this makes it a very hard job, and getting harder each generation.

With endless money printing all the money is flowing to the top. Just like the end of a game of monopoly."


There is only one type of government, and that is permanent. Voting changes nothing 'ever'.

By the way everything you say. it's always Tories or Brexit, fault for everything.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

"By the way everything you say. it's always Tories or Brexit, fault for everything."

Well they are in charge, and have been for the last twelve years. In 2010, there were just under 41k people receiving food from Trussel Trust foodbanks. The latest figures (20/21) now put that at over 2.5 million. The way things are going right now, that could double in one year. That is a direct result of policy decisions by successive Conservative governments. Not Corbyn, or Starmer, or Bill Gates - its Cameron, May, johnson.

I don't get this voting nihilism, no party manifesto is ever going to say 'we're going to smash the system', but they can say we're going to make it fairer and more equitable.

[essentialmix75]

You are living through the end of this fiat currency system. And it's going to get a lot worse. Like I have said before hyperinflation is coming and people are going to lose everything. Prices are going to make people's eyes water.

All by design, people will except the Central bank digital currency (complete government control).

Everything that is happening now is to aid the collapse.

[essentialmix75]

It's A BIG Club & You Ain't In It!

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[Isaac Hunt]

Don't think so, fuel crises have a habit of changing governments. If we've been manipulated in any way we've been manipulated to believe that the car is the key to an elevated personal freedom and that public transport is for plebs. Once that's been bought into, how can you take the fuel away - its heroin. Course people are going to get mad, if the LibDems said in their manifesto they'd remove all tax from fuel they'd leave the tories and labour for dust.

Shhhhhh

[Smirnoffexpress]

Too many bad decision have been made by politicians in my lifetime. All driven by short termism. With our electoral system driven by a perpetual five year cycle, decisions are taken to get yourself re elected not for the medium and long term benefits of the country. The Beeching report and Thatchers privatisation of our public transport being the two most horrendous decisions. With all the, now defunct, rail links still in place and trains and buses either publicly owned or subsidised we would, obviously, be in a far better place. Shame on them.

[exgaffer]

Too many bad decision have been made by politicians in my lifetime. All driven by short termism. With our electoral system driven by a perpetual five year cycle, decisions are taken to get yourself re elected not for the medium and long term benefits of the country. The Beeching report and Thatchers privatisation of our public transport being the two most horrendous decisions. With all the, now defunct, rail links still in place and trains and buses either publicly owned or subsidised we would, obviously, be in a far better place. Shame on them.

Absolutely spot on Smirns.

We need to reopen as many of the old rail lines as possible and provide a comprehensive, affordable  bus/tram system nationwide. We should include the ferries in this as well, it’s a nonsense what’s going on with P&O for example.

People are coming to realise the sense of this now, better late than never of course.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

The sale of council houses, and the refusal to allow councils to use the money to build replacement housing, was the worst of the worst. All hail the rise of the private landlord and ballooning housing benefit payments, first time buyers stretching into their thirties, stalled families with births into the mid-to-late thirties. Tragic, and all to win one election.

And that’s without even mentioning the spaffing away of North Sea oil.

[Hermann's_no_hermit]

Public transport is only not on option because its been starved of investment. TFL works great for the nine million of us up here.

Generally agree with a lot of what you say Tuffers but public transport will never be good enough to get people in the more rural communities to and from work. I live in a part of Kent that is being inundated with new housing for predominately Londoners. The trouble is there are no jobs here for them so the majority are commuting to the larger towns or indeed back into London. For the majority that would mean getting two, possibly 3  buses and a train - if they are lucky. It is cost and time prohibitive.

[Smirnoffexpress]

The selling off of council houses could have been beneficial to all if the proceeds had been allowed to be reinvested in new stock. Sell one build one would have benefitted many at the lower end of the wage scale. That the Tories denied councils this option was both spiteful and short sighted. Likewise when the banking crisis occurred they were bailed out with private money, maybe that money might have served us better. By setting up a national bank that offered subsidised mortgages for those on low wages.

[essentialmix75]

Selling off Council homes, was a bankers wet dream. Lending money (they create) to low income households, without any risk.

Same as when women got promoted to work, bankers got to increase the money supply, because you gained a new debt slave into the system.

Don't worry about the price of houses they are just going to crash, 'why'?.
4 factors
Rising interest rates on mortgage's.
Rising food prices.
Rising Fuel prices gas & electric.
Rising Fuel prices petrol.

This is what happens when people are on a fixed income.
Get ready.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

"gained a new debt slave"

You never know, they may really like their new job. New circle of friends, nice environment, interesting challenges, decent money. I don't think we're all chaining ourselves to the wheel.

[Smirnoffexpress]

For “fixed income” put fixed low income. A fixed income of say £10k a year is a different challenge to a fixed income of £100k a year. Wealth distribution counts, and the U.K. still has enermous gaps between the top and bottom.

[Isaac Hunt]

For “fixed income” put fixed low income. A fixed income of say £10k a year is a different challenge to a fixed income of £100k a year. Wealth distribution counts, and the U.K. still has enermous gaps between the top and bottom.

Would nice to think things could be evened out, will never happen.

Why should nurses get paid much much less than lawyers for example.