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The beginning of the end?
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17-12-2021, 09:03 AM
Was last night's by-election defeat the beginning of the end for Boris? Seems like even staunch Tory voters are finally seeing through him. The biggest problem for the Tories is who would they replace him with? Surely not Gove.
17-12-2021, 09:15 AM
BoJo has been a walking zombie since his tardiness in acting allowed the pandemic easy access to the UK. Further policy missteps have only made the situation worse. He was due to be binned like a used mask once the pandemic was over, but events have now forced senior Tories' hands, even though they didn't want to grab the shitty stick so soon. I think he'll be out by March.
17-12-2021, 10:28 AM
(This post was last modified: 17-12-2021, 10:31 AM by Tufnell_Chimes.)
Local elections are in May. Either they wait for those results and see if he's rescued it, or they bin him beforehand and give the new guy the chance to establish themselves at those elections. His best outcome would be to resign beforehand, say he has health issues, long-covid or something equally sympathy-inducing, and then campaigns for his choice of successor, there's still a rump of mis-guided people that will forgive him anything and enjoy his campaigning 'spirit'. He stays at the centre of the party, treasurer, king-maker and jester all rolled into one. Or he hangs on till they knife him in the front and leave him dead in a ditch - usual tory way.
Difficult to see a popular takeover candidate though, most have obvious links to the VIP fast lane thefts - (Truss and Gove especially, Hancock too but he's finished), Sunak screwed over the tory small-business base who may see it as an opportunity to kick him in the nuts, and he has zero understanding of average lives, and all those ridiculous over-polished photographs of him make him a narcissist-ying to johnson's narcissist-yang. The rest of the cabinet are either beyond stupid or just plain nasty. From outside the cabinet Jeremy Hunt and Tobias Ellwood seem to be positioning themselves, and outside of that there's the anti-christian, uber-christian, Steve Nutjob Baker. If he gets it, either the tories are finished for a generation if they lose, or we are fucked as a nation for decades if he wins. 
The message is a grim one for the right's whole shtick. If people want Tory, they'll vote for the 'full-fat' version. If they want 'not-Tory and we don't mind bland and treacherous', they have the LibDems to vote for. So the right's attempts to mimic the Tories and the LibDems in the foolish hope it would win them seats from either have put them in a position where nobody's buying the weird mix they're offering.
In other words, people saw through Blair and they have no interest in his cheesy tribute band. 
17-12-2021, 01:34 PM
No comprendo. The right’s attempt to mimic the Tories?
17-12-2021, 01:47 PM
17-12-2021, 07:49 PM
18-12-2021, 01:16 AM
So the tories mimicked UKip. labour mimicked the tories, the libs destroyed the tories in a one off bye election.
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