[exterminator]

I think you're a fucking bellend but I hope you get better soon

Scumlover as  I have to isolate along with the mrs & our visiting currant bun  who have also got it for 10 days  (we don't know which one of us got it 1st)  I'm going to have a lot of practice at being  one  on here - so watch out yfc 

[teeftwo]

This would be the Kary Mullis who liked a bit of LSD, denied HIV caused AIDS and was in O J Simpsons defence team.

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[bluetagagain]

Give it a rest moron

[exgaffer]

This would be the Kary Mullis who liked a bit of LSD, denied HIV caused AIDS and was in O J Simpsons defence team.

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A lot of people liked a bit of LSD teeftwo and he ‘expressed doubts that HIV caused AIDS’.

He invented the PCR test though, are you saying it doesn’t work then?

He was called by the defence in OJ Simpson’s trial as an expert witness on DNA, he wasn’t ‘on the defence team’.

How many defence teams have called you as an expert witness? 

[Jizbag]

I think you're a fucking bellend but I hope you get better soon

I second that you wanker!! 

[Hermann's_no_hermit]

Well Rescue Dog & Essentialmix and  any other non believing tosser I tested positive by LFT on Sunday after a negative on Friday. PCR confirmed Covid 19  on Sunday,  gradually been feeling worse & worse since then.

As someone who is  CEV due to some underlying health problems  the great people from the NHS have been over me like a rash with texts, emails and phone calls. They  got me a pulse & oxygen
onitor sent for monitoring and reporting 4 times a day  & are now sending me out some sort of anti viral  tablets via a taxi !!

All this for something that certainly isn't "just flu" - if it keeps me out of hospital that will be one of the my best Christmas presents ever !

So to anyone out there who thinks the NHS are sitting on their backsides doing nothing, not trying to keep people healthy & out of hospital wind your necks in and listen to people who are experiencing this dreadful virus

Get well soon

[exterminator]

I think you're a fucking bellend but I hope you get better soon

I second that you wanker!! 

What is it like tossing yourself off all the time Jizzboy - enjoy yourself 

[Rescue Dog]

How many similar conspiracy theory threads are RD and EssMix going to start about vaccinations, government misinformation, blah, blah......
Bring back the Brexit debates, even they would be more welcome

Hi Herman, I understand why you are sceptical as there are a lot of silly ideas about. 

 However, it is a simple truth that there are several effective measures we can all take that will reduce our chance of harm and death from Covid; no guarantees, of course and no unicorns, either.

 For example, Vit D and zinc are 100% scientifically proven to reduce the chances of harm. This is simply established truth and that the Govt and their 'advisors' have not been promoting this on top of the vaccine is a crime. 

Even if this one measure saved 1% then roughly 1,500 people in the UK would still be alive. Exactly how effective Vit D & zinc are is not settled, but, the fact they actually are effective is certain; and the evidence shows far better than a 1% gain.

You should know this as should your friends and family; we all should know this. This simple measure would definitely save lives.

Stating there are several measures that help against Covid should not be controversial, rather, everyone should be rolling their eyes and thinking, "RD, we know, everyone knows this!!!The Govt has had posters up everywhere, it's on the TV and radio ALL the time...........". 
If only.............. 

The link I posted is not to a conspiracy site but to a genuine (and expert) physician who is currently working with, and researching, Covid; he was good enough to be called to Congress to provide testimony. The guy is no 'quack', he is simply showing what he believes to be true based on successful treatments he gave his own patients as well as research. 

This link is genuine science.    

It may be another point of view compared to the information you have but it is legitimate. To find out what is true we need to listen to all evidence. 

It is unwise to dismiss expert opinion and evidence as conspiracy (especially when this man has NOTHING to gain except his conscience).
If you have better evidence please show it; genuinely, interested to see. 

Simply, expert opinion that contradicts the 'vaccine only' narrative is, in a very real way, constantly being censored (happy to provide evidence) and alternate measures that can effectively help with Covid are, in a very real way, ignored and discredited.

We all deserve to be properly informed and to be able to change our minds when we have sufficient evidence.

Stay safe and have a Happy Xmas

[Rescue Dog]

Hey Guff, I 'sort of' agree with you. Not on substance of course, but RD does seem to be more on the pragmatic wing of EsseX's loony fringe. edit: did I say 'pragmatic' - I think I meant 'less-hysterical' or 'lower key'.

Is it just me or does there appear to be a lot of repitition of certain words and phrases that seem to crop up in pulses: authoritiarian, own nothing and lots of YouTube links. I get the feeling there's more but really I can't be arsed to go back through all the posts. Strings a-pulling, methinks.

Oh and one more thing Guff, just to disavow of any excuse - you voted for these creatures. Your vote allowed it all to happen. More shit to own - you're like the Steve Baker of TBA, continually wrong but you just keep on digging.

I actually think I would agree with many of your stances, Tuffs.

I don't think we need to believe in silly conspiracies to accept the amount of wealth and control at the top is undemocratic. 

It is simply true that a few global international financial organisations really do have controlling ownership over Big Pharma, Big Tech and the Media. Look up the shareholders of Pfeizer, Astra Zenaca, Fox, CNN, Google and you will find ALL of them are owned by international finance; it'll take about 5 mins.

Iraq showed me the level of deception people in the West can be subjected to. We have a massive power imbalance and it is harmful.

Anyway, have a happy Xmas PUP

[Rescue Dog]

...., whatever our positions on Covid matters, about the deliberate suppression of effective alternate treatments to Covid. 

This really is a very serious issue and crime.

Such information would never be censored if we did not live in a such an unequal world. The withholding of life saving information and treatment has certainly meant that 1,000s of people have died who, otherwise, would now be alive; probably, 10's of thousands.  

The current Covid narrative is leading many to become very authoritarian when, according to the science, there is a lot more we can do to alleviate suffering and death. Many of these alternate treatments are also very cheap and, could be, readily available to all. 

For those unfamiliar with what has been going on I have posted an article by Pierre Kory who explains what him, and medics like him, have had to endure for simply trying to treat their patients with effective measures that are not part of the Covid 'vaccine only' narrative. 

There are lots of 'Pierre Kory's' (i.e. experts) who disagree with the political response to Covid. SAGE and Fergusson et al are not the only scientists we have.................

We are being deliberately mislead. All of us have a right to a second opinion and be aware of scientific differences of opinion. Sometimes, our lives depend on it...........

 https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/stu...uppressed/

Your position on this is strange, but revealing.

The vast majority of doctors, universities and institutions support the science behind vaccines that have been vigorously tested by countries around the globe, yet you choose to identify with a small number of individuals who promote unverified and unproven treatments. It’s perverse and unscientific. Your position makes no logical sense unless you are in fact promoting a conspiracy theory (which you say you’re not).

What is strange about stating i.e. that Vit D and zinc have been proven to offer some protection against Covid?  It is simply established science. I cannot imagine any doctor would say different. 

Surely, the strange and perverse thing to do is cover this up.
Please do some reading on this and make your own mind up (go to scientific journals and specialists for more reliable info). It's 100% true.
 
You have made a number of assertions about me, explicit or implied, with NO evidence or justification. 

1) I am NOT anti-vax (as I have explained several times now) but I do challenge the political response. 

2) The evidence I have provided are either from genuine experts or the Govts own data. 

3) The treatments these experts support are due to what they have found works. 

 There are numerous highly credible and prestigious scientists angry about being censored; several of them highly cited world experts from the worlds most prestigious universities. This really is happening. I am not joking or trying to make you believe in unicorns.

A couple of years ago I am sure you would have called this a scientific debate, that so many now have an automatic Pavlovian response and claim, "Conspiracy theorist", rather than take time to read, is sad. Very sad given what is at stake.

Regardless, have a super Xmas

[Rescue Dog]

Hey Guff, I 'sort of' agree with you. Not on substance of course, but RD does seem to be more on the pragmatic wing of EsseX's loony fringe. edit: did I say 'pragmatic' - I think I meant 'less-hysterical' or 'lower key'.

Is it just me or does there appear to be a lot of repitition of certain words and phrases that seem to crop up in pulses: authoritiarian, own nothing and lots of YouTube links. I get the feeling there's more but really I can't be arsed to go back through all the posts. Strings a-pulling, methinks.

Oh and one more thing Guff, just to disavow of any excuse - you voted for these creatures. Your vote allowed it all to happen. More shit to own - you're like the Steve Baker of TBA, continually wrong but you just keep on digging.

There are sad reasons why 'authoritarian' keeps coming up; Govts assuming control over citizens bodies, Covid internment and new 'emergency powers' for starters.................

My links have been Govt data and actual physicians who are genuinely working on and treating Covid. The one You-tube video was of an interview with Professor Peter Phillips where he explains his research showing how much global finance control (it's a real eye opener) His book, "Giants: The Global Power Elite", explains the research. The evidence seems irrefutable.

Have a happy Xmas and stay safe

[Rescue Dog]

Is it just me or does there appear to be a lot of repitition of certain words and phrases that seem to crop up in pulses: authoritiarian, own nothing and lots of YouTube links. 

"Fascism" crops up a great deal.

Isn't a key part of fascism Corporate-Govt control?

[Rescue Dog]

The antivaxers seem to have taken over this board, even more boring than guffs and tuffs diatribes.

This board needs proper moderation before every sane person departs.

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Not anti-vax at all. Just a different opinion based on evidence.

[Rescue Dog]

Well Rescue Dog & Essentialmix and  any other non believing tosser I tested positive by LFT on Sunday after a negative on Friday. PCR confirmed Covid 19  on Sunday,  gradually been feeling worse & worse since then.

As someone who is  CEV due to some underlying health problems  the great people from the NHS have been over me like a rash with texts, emails and phone calls. They  got me a pulse & oxygen
onitor sent for monitoring and reporting 4 times a day  & are now sending me out some sort of anti viral  tablets via a taxi !!

All this for something that certainly isn't "just flu" - if it keeps me out of hospital that will be one of the my best Christmas presents ever !

So to anyone out there who thinks the NHS are sitting on their backsides doing nothing, not trying to keep people healthy & out of hospital wind your necks in and listen to people who are experiencing this dreadful virus

I wish you well and a speedy recovery. 

I am not anti-vax and what I post is what experts have shown and think will help you. 

Hope you're better for Xmas

[Rescue Dog]

...., whatever our positions on Covid matters, about the deliberate suppression of effective alternate treatments to Covid. 

This really is a very serious issue and crime.

Such information would never be censored if we did not live in a such an unequal world. The withholding of life saving information and treatment has certainly meant that 1,000s of people have died who, otherwise, would now be alive; probably, 10's of thousands.  

The current Covid narrative is leading many to become very authoritarian when, according to the science, there is a lot more we can do to alleviate suffering and death. Many of these alternate treatments are also very cheap and, could be, readily available to all. 

For those unfamiliar with what has been going on I have posted an article by Pierre Kory who explains what him, and medics like him, have had to endure for simply trying to treat their patients with effective measures that are not part of the Covid 'vaccine only' narrative. 

There are lots of 'Pierre Kory's' (i.e. experts) who disagree with the political response to Covid. SAGE and Fergusson et al are not the only scientists we have.................

We are being deliberately mislead. All of us have a right to a second opinion and be aware of scientific differences of opinion. Sometimes, our lives depend on it...........

 https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/stu...uppressed/

Your position on this is strange, but revealing.

The vast majority of doctors, universities and institutions support the science behind vaccines that have been vigorously tested by countries around the globe, yet you choose to identify with a small number of individuals who promote unverified and unproven treatments. It’s perverse and unscientific. Your position makes no logical sense unless you are in fact promoting a conspiracy theory (which you say you’re not).

What is strange about stating i.e. that Vit D and zinc have been proven to offer some protection against Covid?  It is simply established science. I cannot imagine any doctor would say different. 

Surely, the strange and perverse thing to do is cover this up.
Please do some reading on this and make your own mind up (go to scientific journals and specialists for more reliable info). It's 100% true.
 
You have made a number of assertions about me, explicit or implied, with NO evidence or justification. 

1) I am NOT anti-vax (as I have explained several times now) but I do challenge the political response. 

2) The evidence I have provided are either from genuine experts or the Govts own data. 

3) The treatments these experts support are due to what they have found works. I am merely sharing this information with you.

 There are numerous highly credible and prestigious scientists angry about being censored; several of them highly cited world experts from the worlds most prestigious universities. This really is happening. I am not joking or trying to make you believe in unicorns.

A couple of years ago this would have been called a scientific debate. That so many now have an automatic Pavlovian response and claim, "Conspiracy theorist" at the findings of medics and scientists, rather than take time to read about their work, is sad. Very sad given what is at stake.

Regardless, have a super Xmas

[Rescue Dog]

Let them walk off the cliff.

If they can not see people who only have their back, are trying to help them, and people who benefit off controlling them, are trying to gain more control.

Then what can you do?

 Have a happy Xmas Essix.

I'll keeps posts like this off the Footie section, don't want to ruin the site or piss people off unduly. 

With the situation ongoing I think there will be many posts about Covid to come (regardless of me or you) as well as other issues.

[brian bromley]

On the other side of the coin and I feel sad to make this post, I booked a test for last friday.

Arrived on time and was the only person going in, I showed the text from NHS  but was not asked for photo ID to prove who I am. very worrying but it got worse. I informed them I am disabled and would need assistance to take the test. their answer?

We don't assist people and we are not allowed to touch you! 

Can guide me how I can raise the issue with the NHS?

[Cressers]

https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/about-t...o-the-nhs/

[Jizbag]

On the other side of the coin and I feel sad to make this post, I booked a test for last friday.

Arrived on time and was the only person going in, I showed the text from NHS  but was not asked for photo ID to prove who I am. very worrying but it got worse. I informed them I am disabled and would need assistance to take the test. their answer?

We don't assist people and we are not allowed to touch you! 

Can guide me how I can raise the issue with the NHS?

Are you local to Portsmouth Brian? I can give you a hand if so?

[brian bromley]

Thanks Cressers, Jezzer you have an email.

[Deebo]

Lorra festive love and peace and helping our fellow man on the board at the moment. I'm loving it. Long may it continue.

[brian bromley]

Bugger off deebo

[Deebo]

Fair enough. I actually meant it but, as you wish — bah humbug!

[Jezzer]

Thanks Cressers, Jezzer you have an email.

No I don't.  Or are you that Nigerian chap offering me 4 million pounds in exchange for my bank details?

[dsmg]

Jizzer , not Jezzer