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#26
04-01-2022, 08:59 PM
You Northerners can keep London, it’s a shithole. Big Grin Once Pompey gains independence England can go play with itself.

PROPI.........NO, we ain’t in fekin Aaaaampsheer.

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04-01-2022, 10:21 PM
(04-01-2022, 02:53 PM)Bluestow Wrote:
(04-01-2022, 02:00 PM)brian bromley Wrote:
(04-01-2022, 07:54 AM)Bluestow Wrote:
(03-01-2022, 10:54 PM)brian bromley Wrote: Don't forget the eu's disgusting attempts ar breaking up the UK.

Hmmm, rewriting history I think.

Care to explain that comment Bluestow?

I'll preface this by saying that, obviously, every country is trying to gain an advantage for itself over its competitors and allies. What hurts us benefits France, Ireland, Russia, North Korea, etc..., and vice versa. Trading agreements that align mutual interests means we get benefits like raised standards, and environmental, consumer and employee protections.

The Good Friday Agreement is based on the premise of an open border, however on leaving the EU we closed the border. Therefore, we have created a contradiction and no amount of bluster will alter the fact that something that was hard fought for - peace in Ireland - is at risk. The EU did not create this contradiction and to say their aim is the break up of the UK is Brexiteer blame shifting of the highest order. Brexiteers, your decision led to this.

Good reply Blue but did the UK close the border or did a failure in negotiations cause the problem? I mean partners in NATO, basically common standards in quality and safety and 40 years experience of common trading should have been grounds for some sort of compromise. Now for sure the UK reps were incompetent but is that fair grounds for putting lives at risk? No the EU saw the chance of a united Ireland and that will surely end in a bloodbath.

Regarding the channel migrants it is reported that 40% of those currently trying to cross illegally have already applied and failed for French asylum but are still in france. Being in the eu france has the ability to deport them - why have they not done that? Instead they risk lives by letting them try to reach England.

Why have the EU been courting Scottish enrolment prior to any commitment to a referendum let alone agreement to them leaving the UK?

I could go on...

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05-01-2022, 11:54 PM
But you can't. And the stuff you've posted isn't true either. Poor effort, though satisfying to see some are still trying.

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06-01-2022, 09:33 AM
(04-01-2022, 10:11 AM)scouse Wrote: I'm looking forward to it.

United Ireland.

Independent Scotland.

Peoples Republic Of Liverpool.

and the Independent Republic of Portsea Island. Big Grin

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06-01-2022, 09:48 AM
(05-01-2022, 11:54 PM)Tufnell_Chimes Wrote: But you can't. And the stuff you've posted isn't true either. Poor effort, though satisfying to see some are still trying.

He most certainly could  Smile .

Not going so well in France is it?  Big Grin

To mention just one fecking disaster.

I was amused by the appalling Angela Rayner suggesting that Boris should remove VAT from energy.

I actually agree with that by the way, but if we had remained in the EU (as she and her party wanted to) it would not have been possible to remove it due to EU rules.

Faf.

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06-01-2022, 10:41 AM (This post was last modified: 06-01-2022, 10:43 AM by Tufnell_Chimes.)
(06-01-2022, 09:48 AM)exgaffer Wrote: I was amused by the appalling Angela Rayner suggesting that Boris should remove VAT from energy.

I actually agree with that by the way, but if we had remained in the EU (as she and her party wanted to) it would not have been possible to remove it due to EU rules.

Faf.

Well there's two things here Guff. Before the referendum this was johnson making promises of a post-Brexit wonderland:

"when we Vote Leave, we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax"
“It isn’t right that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels impose taxes on the poorest and elected British politicians can do nothing."

So here we are in our post-Brexit dystopia, and where is the scrapping of this unfair and damaging tax? it was just another lie, there was never any intention of reducing it, let alone scrapping it.

And regarding the notion that it wouldn't have been possible to change VAT rates because of the EU, the EU set a minimum VAT rate for domestic energy at 15% - the tories have never set the VAT for this utility this low, first it was 17.5% and at the time of leaving the EU it was 20% (and still is).

How amusing...

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06-01-2022, 11:20 AM
(06-01-2022, 10:41 AM)Tufnell_Chimes Wrote:
(06-01-2022, 09:48 AM)exgaffer Wrote: I was amused by the appalling Angela Rayner suggesting that Boris should remove VAT from energy.

I actually agree with that by the way, but if we had remained in the EU (as she and her party wanted to) it would not have been possible to remove it due to EU rules.

Faf.

Well there's two things here Guff. Before the referendum this was johnson making promises of a post-Brexit wonderland:

"when we Vote Leave, we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax"
“It isn’t right that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels impose taxes on the poorest and elected British politicians can do nothing."

So here we are in our post-Brexit dystopia, and where is the scrapping of this unfair and damaging tax? it was just another lie, there was never any intention of reducing it, let alone scrapping it.

And regarding the notion that it wouldn't have been possible to change VAT rates because of the EU, the EU set a minimum VAT rate for domestic energy at 15% - the tories have never set the VAT for this utility this low, first it was 17.5% and at the time of leaving the EU it was 20% (and still is).

How amusing...

Nice try Tuffers.

Rayner was talking about REMOVING it, which would not have been possible.

I was amused by how the Guardian and all the other Eurofawning outlets reported the removal of the large EU flag and from the Arc de Triomphe  Big Grin . According to them it was due to pressure from ‘right wing’ or ‘far right wing’ (depending on the level of delusion displayed) politicians. Actually it was public outcry from the increasingly Eurosceptic French populace.

All power to the French people in removing the irksome little Napoleon Macron, who can then take up a well remunerated position in the bureaucracy of the failing EU project.

The clock is ticking and sanity will soon prevail.

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06-01-2022, 11:46 AM
(06-01-2022, 09:48 AM)exgaffer Wrote:
(05-01-2022, 11:54 PM)Tufnell_Chimes Wrote: But you can't. And the stuff you've posted isn't true either. Poor effort, though satisfying to see some are still trying.

He most certainly could  Smile .

Not going so well in France is it?  Big Grin

To mention just one fecking disaster.

I was amused by the appalling Angela Rayner suggesting that Boris should remove VAT from energy.

I actually agree with that by the way, but if we had remained in the EU (as she and her party wanted to) it would not have been possible to remove it due to EU rules.

Faf.

Spain have reduced VAT on energy from 21 to 10%

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06-01-2022, 12:24 PM
So Guff, you're fully expecting Sunak to announce the removal of VAT. Give us a date you expect to hear it.

Otherwise your trying to attack a position that may not have happened then, won't happen now and in all probability will not happen anytime in the future. You're attacking a fugazi.

Poor effort.

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