[exgaffer]

Only a couple of months ago there were posters on here complaining that those responsible for bringing down the statue had not been brought to justice.

They have been and they were acquitted.

Yet still you bitch!

Well they were tried but obviously not brought to justice.

It was criminal damage pure and simple and anyone who, having seen the video of the incident, found that it was not is an obvious cretin.

As a juror you are supposed to judge on the basis of the law as it is, not as you would wish it to be.

I’d love to have been a fly on the wall in the jury room, it must have been woke central ffs.

It is notable that there is a complete absence of oppressed black people in the dock, just a bunch of entitled middle class white people playing at being revolutionaries. That says it all.

[oi oi saveloy]

Only a couple of months ago there were posters on here complaining that those responsible for bringing down the statue had not been brought to justice.

They have been and they were acquitted.

Yet still you bitch!

just a bunch of entitled middle class white people playing at being revolutionaries.

sounds very familiar doesn’t it.

[BilltheCat]

According to you, though, if you don't get the result you wanted you should just shut-the-fuck-up and move on, no?

(I'm sure if they were black "revolutionaries" you'd be equally disparaging).

[Pompey_in_Derby]

Disgraceful response to the statue being toppled........ only 4 in court and all acquitted when hundreds were involved and filmed! Had it kicked off in a football ground hundreds would have received an early morning knock on the door followed by a conviction!

What would be the response to anyone damaging Roman walls, mosaics or excavations in Bath, York, Chester, Salisbury, Chichester etc to protest against slavery? How about the Libyan, Algerian or Turkish embassies in retaliation to the white slave trade?

Criminal damage should be treated as a criminal act whatever the perceived wrongs of the target - e.g. if 10% of the population have a conviction of some sort (that number's a complete guesstimate), it's not right to identify them years later and trash 10% of gravestones!

Compare and contrast the punishments dished out in the USA over the mob storming the Capitol.

Rant over!

[dsmg]

Hardly comparable

[exgaffer]

According to you, though, if you don't get the result you wanted you should just shut-the-fuck-up and move on, no?

(I'm sure if they were black "revolutionaries" you'd be equally disparaging).

You never cease to confirm what a total bellend you are BTC.

The jury did not discharge the duty they were sworn to carry out. It is not their job to invent the law, it is their job to weigh the evidence and find guilt or innocence based on that. My view would have been the same if they were black, yellow or fucking green ffs.

The four (and others) were guilty of criminal damage, end of story. The evidence is as clear as you could ever get it. Any mitigation could be taken into account when sentencing.

If you are referring to the Brexit vote, that was a democratic vote on a particular issue, there is no similarity whatsoever.

There should be a retrial at the very least, you can’t have juries making it up as they go along, justice will be the victim if that is tolerated 

If you disagree with something, campaign to change it, don’t just take the law into your own hands. That way lies anarchy and a society most of us would not like to live in.

[Smirnoffexpress]

Surely that should read: "I have nothing to tug".

I’ll have you know, I have plenty to tug. Just reached the stage where I’m no longer fussed if it gets tugged too often.

PS. Spot on, once again ex g, but remember, you are dealing with folk that think the law is only there to keep their sort safe from the excesses of the working class!

[Tufnell_Chimes]

So you’re saying dismantle the jury system and allow only judges to judge us rather than our common man. That’s sounds like you have no confidence at all in the working classes to judge us. How peculiar.



…And also, you’ve got to hold onto that libido as long as possible Smirns, we’re only about 6000 years past being in the Stone Age and evolution is a slow-moving force, once your body realises it can no longer reproduce, you’re on a slippery slope. Just sayin’…

[BilltheCat]

"safe from the excesses of the working class!"

Some of whom were no doubt jury members.

[Smirnoffexpress]

Vegan worzles don’t count.

[stayinupforever]

Were these four filmed pulling it down and chucking it in the river?
If so regardless of your views or opinions from whatever 'side' criminal damage is criminal damage and I don't understand how you can can be found not guilty of doing something you've been filmed doing(?)

Going back to the court case....totally agree the acquittal is ridiculous. Can we pull down Ted Bates please as we won't get done now?

[scouse]

You Lost Get Over It!

As the saying goes...

[exgaffer]

You Lost Get Over It!

As the saying goes...

It wasn’t a referendum though was it?

It was an inexplicable miscarriage of justice carried out for dubious political purposes.

The spoilt middle class tossers were guilty as hell. It was all on video and they admitted it.

There can never have been a more clear cut case ffs.

[teeftwo]

The law evolves through cases, and as such this case has set a precedent.

If you don't have the appetite for a case based legal framework and trial by your peers legal system by all means go and live in a totalitarian state somewhere.

The judge is able to direct the jury to a verdict, in this case the judge seems happy with the way the case has gone.

You can whinge about it all you like but that's the result so best dry your eyes and move on if you don't agree. Nothing is going to change unless compelling new evidence is brought to bear.