[scumslayer]

Never saw the phrase "trophy asset" before but this article makes me see the Eisner ownership of Pompey as one such implementation https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60585081

[Pompeyg100]

Never saw the phrase "trophy asset" before but this article makes me see the Eisner ownership of Pompey as one such implementation https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60585081

You mean like a trophy wife? Pompey are the equivalent of a 75 year old fat bird, trophy we certainly are not.

[Deebo]

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

[Ain’t got a Danny]

The word "allegedly" now appears in a few posts on this thread.

Please help me to help you by doing the same.

I am sure I will cop some abuse from this, but as anyone who knows Colin and Micah, or followed the Blackpool Oyston nonsense knows, yes people do read our board and yes they do litigate. Please don't let that be you.

I hope this is interpreted as I intend it - protecting Pompey fans, not trying to go all 1984 on you.

As you were...

PUP

Cheers.

[Pompeyg100]

I do find it odd that the British media seem to think that the oligarchs have an ounce of sway into Putins decision making.

It's like asking Richard Brandson to have a word with Tony Blaire to pull troops out of Iraq. Do people not understand how absurd that is?

Except Russia doesn’t operate like the UK, they have a sway because they fund him.

We do have a very similar system in the UK though ... the Tories are funded by Russian oligarchs too.

Boris hasn’t amassed billions in personal wealth from them though has he? Boris isn’t PM for life either.

[DeepBlue]

The tories might be though. They're not funding Boris personally.

[Pedalo_menders]

I do find it odd that the British media seem to think that the oligarchs have an ounce of sway into Putins decision making.

It's like asking Richard Brandson to have a word with Tony Blaire to pull troops out of Iraq. Do people not understand how absurd that is?

Except Russia doesn’t operate like the UK, they have a sway because they fund him.

We do have a very similar system in the UK though ... the Tories are funded by Russian oligarchs too.

Boris hasn’t amassed billions in personal wealth from them though has he? Boris isn’t PM for life either.

I think you have it the wrong way round Pompeyg100. The oligarchs very much do what Putin allows them to do, not the other way round.

[Pompeyg100]

I do find it odd that the British media seem to think that the oligarchs have an ounce of sway into Putins decision making.

It's like asking Richard Brandson to have a word with Tony Blaire to pull troops out of Iraq. Do people not understand how absurd that is?

Except Russia doesn’t operate like the UK, they have a sway because they fund him.

We do have a very similar system in the UK though ... the Tories are funded by Russian oligarchs too.

Boris hasn’t amassed billions in personal wealth from them though has he? Boris isn’t PM for life either.

I think you have it the wrong way round Pompeyg100. The oligarchs very much do what Putin allows them to do, not the other way round.

Yes because they pay him and by coming out against him and stop paying him, he’s fcked. They need each other but if they get rid of him, they’ll pay the next one too.

[Cunninglinguist]

Remove the money and you remove the power. Boris and co seem reluctant to strip the assets of the oligarchs. At least for 18 months!

[dsmg]

Typical wishy washy response. 18 months? ffs, how will that help Ukraine NOW?

[Cunninglinguist]

It won’t, of course.

Makes you wonder why they aren’t being serious about it, doesn’t it?

I expect there will be some serious cashing in on assets, very shortly. Starting with Chelsea.

[Oct_63]

It isn't just the oligarchs, it is those verbal prostitutes who enable these people to operate in the UK. Accountants, Lawyers Bankers. Some of whom must look at themselves in the mirror. Without these prostitutes would they be able to hide their wealth in shell companies or attack their critics and those who attempt to expose their alleged wrong doings Pursuing them through our archaic court system, where it is so different from the US system where the onus is on the complainant rather in UK courts. This route has to be changed. Shame on them. Their money has infiltrated our political class, The City and legal system like a cancer. It needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. Books cannot be printed as these oligarchs and Russian government threaten legal action. Censorship by a foreign power and individuals.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

KPMG, EY, PWC and Deloitte are all still operating in Russia.

But aside from that here's a list of MPs being paid by Russian donors. Jeremy Hunt's living up to his nickname, others are happy to corrupt their position for the smallest of sums. Aquind's Termerko's been splashing it about.

I haven't checked, but I'm assuming they're all tories

[Jezzer]

It isn't just the oligarchs, it is those verbal prostitutes who enable these people to operate in the UK. Accountants, Lawyers  Bankers. Some of whom must look at themselves in the mirror. Without these prostitutes would they be able to hide their wealth in shell companies or attack their critics and those who attempt to expose their alleged wrong doings  Pursuing them through our archaic court system, where it is so different from the US system  where the onus is on the complainant rather in UK courts. This route has to be changed. Shame on them. Their money has infiltrated our political class, The City and legal system like a cancer. It needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. Books cannot be printed as these oligarchs and Russian government threaten legal action. Censorship by a foreign power and individuals.

Accountants, Lawyers  Bankers. Some of whom must look at themselves in the mirror... But unfortunately they don't, they are people with no scruples who see these people as their next big payday.  Interestingly  the Carter Ruck law firm has felt it necessary to comment on what they call "confused reporting" following links to them and Russian Oligarchs.  

"Carter-Ruck is not acting for, and will not be acting for, any individual, company or entity associated with the Putin regime."  Notice the subtle use of the present tense in this statement

[stayinupforever]

KPMG, EY, PWC and Deloitte are all still operating in Russia.

But aside from that here's a list of MPs being paid by Russian donors. Jeremy Hunt's living up to his nickname, others are happy to corrupt their position for the smallest of sums. Aquind's Termerko's been splashing it about.

I haven't checked, but I'm assuming they're all tories

Is there a list of non-Tory MPs receiving Russian donations?

[dsmg]

Caaaaannnnttttssss

[Cunninglinguist]

It isn't just the oligarchs, it is those verbal prostitutes who enable these people to operate in the UK. Accountants, Lawyers  Bankers. Some of whom must look at themselves in the mirror. Without these prostitutes would they be able to hide their wealth in shell companies or attack their critics and those who attempt to expose their alleged wrong doings  Pursuing them through our archaic court system, where it is so different from the US system  where the onus is on the complainant rather in UK courts. This route has to be changed. Shame on them. Their money has infiltrated our political class, The City and legal system like a cancer. It needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. Books cannot be printed as these oligarchs and Russian government threaten legal action. Censorship by a foreign power and individuals.

That’s muddying the waters though. The new bill, on Monday, should address a lot of those issues. An accountant isn’t going to dissuade Putin from continuing to batter Ukraine. Powerful, rich Russians who are at risk from losing their wealth are far more likely to have a bearing on what happens.
Unfortunately, Putin is probably correct in his assumption that the Uk is far to open to corruption. Now is the chance to prove him wrong.

[Oct_63]

The new legislation, which this current government had to be pressured to bring forward, will not stop these verbal prostitutes using our archaic libel laws from representing these oligarchs, who reports suggest, have for years stolen billions from the Russian people allegedly in collusion with and at the behest of Putin and his inner circle. These oligarchs being the custodians of Putins money and receive billions for over inflated construction contracts etc.
In 2004 Putin jailed and stripped Mikhail Khodorkousky of billions and his oil empire. Western governments and companies didn't sanction him for these actions. Putin realised just how corrupt our governments and businesses are. He simply provided them with parts of Khodorkouskys former empire. Putin learnt that he could do what he wanted. Knowing sanctions may or may not be applied but western governments and companies would still want to do business with Russia.
Nonetheless these law firms will still deal with these people and our politicians will still deal with them.
Look at the 2 members of the House of Lords who are working with Oleg Deripaska.
I am not holding my breath!

[DeepBlue]

Is it just me that doesn't understand what why the term 'verbal prostitute' is being used here ?

[Oct_63]

Verbal prostitutes =lawyers

[DeepBlue]

Verbal prostitutes =lawyers

Why's that ?  

I'll confess I've never heard that phrase used for lawyers before.  I thought a verbal prostitute was someone who talks dirty to you.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

KPMG, EY, PWC and Deloitte are all still operating in Russia.

But aside from that here's a list of MPs being paid by Russian donors. Jeremy Hunt's living up to his nickname, others are happy to corrupt their position for the smallest of sums. Aquind's Termerko's been splashing it about.

I haven't checked, but I'm assuming they're all tories

Is there a list of non-Tory MPs receiving Russian donations?

That's not a list of tory MPs taking russian donations. its a list of MPs taking russian donations, they just happen to be all tories.

[Oct_63]

Verbal prostitutes =lawyers

Why's that ?  

I'll confess I've never heard that phrase used for lawyers before.  I thought a verbal prostitute was someone who talks dirty to you.

I 1st heard it in 1980s,  when a lawyer described himself as a verbal prostitute, during a meeting/conference. It was used by another lawyer, again under similar circumstances, in 1990s. It is something which has stayed with me. Even when challenged on the term both said that is what they were...

[kindofblue]

It was pretty sickening watching the House rise to applaud the Ukrainian ambassador when a good many of the MPs are swimming in dirty Russian money.

[exgaffer]

It was pretty sickening watching the House rise to applaud the Ukrainian ambassador when a good many of the MPs are swimming in dirty Russian money.

That’s very true of course.

It’s not just MP’s though is it?

The Russians have been funding anti fracking and other environmental groups in order to ensure continued Western dependence on Russian oil and gas.

The Chinese have also been at it big time.