[brian bromley]

or is it?

Came across some on you tube which although distorted contained a lot of truth. citing the corruption in our country re the savil scandal and his links with maggie and other government officials they distorted it by combining it with the child groomers and again it being known but ignored.
They illustrated it further with a string of gaffes and failures over the years ending up with a russian official reluctantly shaking hands with a man they described as a liar and idiot (boris) can't really argue with that.

[DeepBlue]

or is it?

Came across some on you tube which although distorted contained a lot of truth. citing the corruption in out country re the savil scandal and his lonks with maggie and other goverment officials they distorted it by combining it with the child groomers and again it being jnown but ignored.

oops dinners ready more to follow,

Can't wait for the explanation of why the British (or any other)  government having some shameful or corrupt history justifies bombing the shit out of Ukraine.

[brian bromley]

Deep it's about how putin presents the west to his people. simple as that.

[DeepBlue]

Deep it's about how putin presents the west to his people. simple as that.

Well he should know how corrupt our government is ... he is the one funding much of that corruption.

[brian bromley]

I think you are completely missing the point deep.

 At no point did I make any suggestion that recent actions by putin are justified of course they are not.

I mentioned a few examples of corruption in our own country, plenty more can be added, the blair WMD fiasco, duffers would add a long list of 
contracts for mates by the current government.

I'm struggling to think of an recent era without scandal attached.

[DeepBlue]

I think you are completely missing the point deep.

 At no point did I make any suggestion that recent actions by putin are justified of course they are not.

I mentioned a few examples of corruption in our own country, plenty more can be added, the blair WMD fiasco, duffers would add a long list of 
contracts for mates by the current government.

I'm struggling to think of an recent era without scandal attached.

I think you are missing the point.  Nowhere did I suggest that anything you said was trying to justify Putin's actions. 
I was getting at the Russians, not you.

[66zoolane]

I think you are completely missing the point deep.

 At no point did I make any suggestion that recent actions by putin are justified of course they are not.

I mentioned a few examples of corruption in our own country, plenty more can be added, the blair WMD fiasco, duffers would add a long list of 
contracts for mates by the current government.

I'm struggling to think of an recent era without scandal attached.

I think you are missing the point.  Nowhere did I suggest that anything you said was trying to justify Putin's actions. 
I was getting at the Russians, not you.

You can't get at the Russians through Brian Bromley.

[essentialmix75]

I think you are completely missing the point deep.

 At no point did I make any suggestion that recent actions by putin are justified of course they are not.

I mentioned a few examples of corruption in our own country, plenty more can be added, the blair WMD fiasco, duffers would add a long list of 
contracts for mates by the current government.

I'm struggling to think of an recent era without scandal attached.

They are all the same.

Some of you have lived long lives, and it's always been the same. Red Or Blue...

[scumslayer]

It's the bit where you went on YouTube for information where it really started to go wrong

[essentialmix75]

It's the bit where you went on YouTube for information where it really started to go wrong

LMAO

No the problem is, too many people trust there 'owners' (government).

And people like you, plant your head in the sand. Because your world is built on what you have already been told, and if that's a lie what else is a 'lie'.

You have to defend the lie.

By the way YouTube is now full on censorship mode. control the message, control the people. This is what censorship is about, not hurt feelings.  Online harms bill!.

Government is the source of all problems.