[Hermann's_no_hermit]

There’s no way Labour are going to say anything anti-Brexit whilst it’s still a cult. You can’t argue with these people, it just hardens their resistance. Unfortunately we all have to wait for that rump of idiocy to see the light before we can move on and return to reason.

Labour supporters are essentially Brexiteers, so the current leadership would be mad to go against them. If Boris and his cronies hadn’t turned into Socialists, they would still be secure in their positions. Once you start down the ‘woke’ road the end is in sight for you.

The only cult is that of the left, the same failing ideology that has trashed so many countries and is in the process of ruining the USA.

The good thing is that the fight back is beginning, people see the light in the end (except the usual suspects with their blinkers on). Quite how these clowns think they can ultimately succeed by calling everyone racists, nazis and all the rest is an enduring mystery   .

There are/were many pro-Brexit Labour supporters as well as many pro-Remain Tories. It really doesn't go along party lines. The only major party's supporters  almost entirely aligned in one direction is the Lib Dems.

[exgaffer]

There’s no way Labour are going to say anything anti-Brexit whilst it’s still a cult. You can’t argue with these people, it just hardens their resistance. Unfortunately we all have to wait for that rump of idiocy to see the light before we can move on and return to reason.

Labour supporters are essentially Brexiteers, so the current leadership would be mad to go against them. If Boris and his cronies hadn’t turned into Socialists, they would still be secure in their positions. Once you start down the ‘woke’ road the end is in sight for you.

The only cult is that of the left, the same failing ideology that has trashed so many countries and is in the process of ruining the USA.

The good thing is that the fight back is beginning, people see the light in the end (except the usual suspects with their blinkers on). Quite how these clowns think they can ultimately succeed by calling everyone racists, nazis and all the rest is an enduring mystery   .

There are/were many pro-Brexit Labour supporters as well as many pro-Remain Tories. It really doesn't go along party lines. The only major party's supporters  almost entirely aligned in one direction is the Lib Dems.

Absolutely right HNH, the Labour Party is traditionally Eurosceptic.

I found some interesting quotes on that subject:

Tony Blair when campaigning in Sedgefield:

‘We’ll negotiate a withdrawal from the EEC, which has drained our natural resources and destroyed jobs’.

That was when they were going for the working class vote of course, rather than the middle class vote Labour aspires to now.

Michael Foot, Barbara Castle, Anthony Wedgewood Benn who said:

‘I saw how the EU was developing and it was very clear that what they had in mind was undemocratic’.

How right he was.

Even the darling of the metropolitan left Jeremy Corbyn (hilarious that he is prep school educated and comes from an upper middle class background by the way) was totally Eurosceptic and kept quiet during the referendum.

So the diverse and inclusive Labour Party (which has never elected a female leader) has now abandoned the British Working Classes (whom it despises for their ‘whiteness’ and patriotism) for the metropolitan elites and immigrants in the inner cities.

Shame on it I say.

Kier Hardie must be turning in his grave.

[BilltheCat]

"If Boris and his cronies hadn’t turned into Socialists"

Possibly the funniest thing you've ever written!

[BilltheCat]

"The only cult is that of the left, the same failing ideology that has trashed so many countries and is in the process of ruining the USA".

Mind you, this comes close.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

“Never elected a female leader” was a cracker. Thatcher was PM for eleven years and only ever had one other woman in all of her cabinets (Baroness Young: Duchy of Lancaster - hardly one of the great offices of state). Did absolutely nothing for women.

Another one of those types that pulls the ladder up after them.

[exterminator]

Duffers n 1979 the Tories had 8 females MP's (Lab11) 1983 T 13, Lab 10 1987 T 17 Lab 21

There are 22 members in the Cabinet so in 1979 1 female (i.e MT)was representative of total Tory MPs and by 1987 2 MT +1 was representative of total Tory MP's so yet again you are attempting to make something of nothing.

It was the way of the UK at rhat time in history. Whatever you and your lefty loser crony sheep do it happened along with a lot of other un PC things at the time and nothing you or they do can alter it.

Bleat,Bleat,

Baa, Baa

[BilltheCat]

Translation, anyone, please?

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Ex, who claims not be a tory, makes out-of-the-blue, spurious comment in defence of the Conservative party. How very strange.

[scouse]

Why the animal noises? I may be forced to retaliate with an

Oink, oink!

[Deebo]

Cuckoo cuckoo

[exgaffer]

Massive public spending, government interference in every aspect of life, shutting down the economy for no reason, nothing done to stop massive immigration, damaging the economy by over reliance on renewables when the technology isn’t up to the job yet, damaging the Union. 

Looks pretty fucking Socialist to me.

I note the very poor defence of the indefensible Labour Party, I particularly liked the non defence of the never having had a female leader. Not that anyone cares about box ticking but the woke, that’s what makes it so hilarious.

You lot live in clown world, no doubt about it.

[scouse]

I think it might be National Socialist you are thinking of.

Nationalsozialismus or Nazi...

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Has Guff had a fall? His head’s gone all funny.

[exterminator]

Translation, anyone, please?

A purported"teacher" who is incapable of understanding plain English - you'd better get your flock leader Duffers to explain

[exterminator]

Why the animal noises? I may be forced to retaliate with an

Oink, oink!

Is that one of the the rem***er sheep I hear - go on follow your dozy leader Duffers :-

Blest, Bleat

Baa,Baa

[exterminator]

Ex, who claims not be a tory, makes out-of-the-blue, spurious comment in defence of the Conservative party. How very strange.

Just factually replying to your comment about,MT cabinet make up Duffers. 

Would have made the same comment if it had been your lefty loony mates. 

You have to look at historical facts in the context of what was the normal  at the time,  whether you agree that it was right or wrong, it is immaterial to what actually happened.

[Deebo]

Why the animal noises? I may be forced to retaliate with an

Oink, oink!

Is that one of the the rem***er sheep I hear - go on follow your dozy leader Duffers :-

Blest, Bleat

Baa,Baa

Cock …




a doodle doo!

[Tufnell_Chimes]

“You have to look at historical facts in the context of what was the normal at the time“

Err… Shirley Williams and Barbara Castle were big players in the Labour administrations all through the seventies - that is, pre-Thatcher. There were four or five others that were also part of these cabinets. So you are, once again, incorrect.

[exterminator]

“You have to look at historical facts in the context of what was the normal  at the time“

Err… Shirley Williams and Barbara Castle were big players in the Labour administrations all through the seventies - that is, pre-Thatcher. There were four or five others that were also part of these cabinets. So you are, once again, incorrect.

I will give you Shirley Willams as she was in most Labour Cabinets in the 1970's- Barbara Castle was in it for two years only 1974-1976.

"However, between 1918 and 1997, only five Labour women held this high office of state: Margaret Bondfield, Ellen Wilkinson, Barbara Castle, Judith Hart and Shirley Williams"


So yet again you're the one who is incorrect Duffers.

Try doing a bit of research instead of the Bleat, Bleat, Baa,,Baa bollocks you normally spout.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

Oh Ex, all that diligence - looking up Google, writing stuff down. And then still getting it wrong. Barbara Castle's tenure, 1974-76, was her fourth office of state. She had previously held three other offices of state between 1964 and 1970.

Hoping your shit golf is better than your shit research.

[scouse]

All golf is shit.

[Deebo]

Say what you like about him, he speaks sheep fluently.

[Tufnell_Chimes]

All golf is shit.

Golf didn't know what shit was till Ex tried his hand.

[exterminator]

Oh Ex, all that diligence - looking up Google, writing stuff down. And then still getting it wrong. Barbara Castle's tenure, 1974-76, was her fourth office of state. She had previously held three other offices of state between 1964 and 1970.

Hoping your shit golf is better than your shit research.

You said this thick sheepy coont :-
"Err… Shirley Williams and Barbara Castle were big players in the Labour administrations all through the seventies - that is, pre-Thatcher" - specifically "he seventies" so my research is great exactly like my golf   

[exterminator]

All golf is shit.

Not half a sh!t as Scousers and wannabe rocket plebs then.