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#26
04-08-2024, 08:51 AM
Before the Charlton match, with the 5 players needed not signed, I thought we’d lose at Leeds.
Probably 3-0 or 4-0 if we defend deep in our half with makeshift central defenders
Then I watched yesterday’s game! We have scored 1 goal and conceded 7 against Div 1 and Div 2 teams
Maybe the Eisner’s could lay a late 10k bet on a 6-0 defeat at 50/1. It’s likely to win.
£6,000,000 should provide us with Robertson, Kamara and 3 others.
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#27
04-08-2024, 08:53 AM
I wouldn't chap. This is Pompey, I wouldn't put it past us to get up there, get murdered but win 1-0 to an own goal
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04-08-2024, 09:06 AM
(04-08-2024, 08:51 AM)BlueView Wrote: Before the Charlton match, with the 5 players needed not signed, I thought we’d lose at Leeds.
Probably 3-0 or 4-0 if we defend deep in our half with makeshift central defenders
Then I watched yesterday’s game! We have scored 1 goal and conceded 7 against Div 1 and Div 2 teams
Maybe the Eisner’s could lay a late 10k bet on a 6-0 defeat at 50/1. It’s likely to win.
£6,000,000 should provide us with Robertson, Kamara and 3 others.

How long have you been watching football?

The results of pre season friendlies mean nothing.

We might get stuffed, we might not, but pre season kick abouts are no indication of how we’ll play in the League.

They never have been and they never will be.
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#29
04-08-2024, 09:15 AM
(in Gaff's opinion)

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04-08-2024, 09:22 AM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2024, 09:28 AM by TitchfieldBlue.)
I assume you mean back? Backing and laying are different things on betfair for example.

Pre season is not about the results but there has to be some signs of good play etc, cohesion, we have shown nothing against 3 lower league efl sides.

A 6 0 defeat is realistic, although it could be more.

We have a mid table league 1 squad as it stands. We are weaker than last season.

Leeds will embarrass us. They may show us sympathy at 6 0 though and slow down.

As it stands we will get relegated by March.
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04-08-2024, 11:52 AM (This post was last modified: 04-08-2024, 11:52 AM by Prickles.)
I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

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04-08-2024, 12:08 PM
Mous looked angry in his post match interview yesterday.

Ultimately its his job to get performances from this group.

Losing to Charlton, Wycombe and drawing with MK Dons in pre season is his and the players fault, as there is enough in that team to show good performances and achieve good results in those games.

Mous has a lot of credit in the bank, but it won't last if we are winless in the first 7 or 8 games and sitting at the bottom of the table.
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04-08-2024, 12:09 PM
(04-08-2024, 11:52 AM)slayer Wrote: I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

Well, he’s had since July to decide on the team, after 6 weeks training, a week in Croatia, and 6 friendlies.
Poole and McIntyre are still unable to play since last year, so there’s no spare centre half for the bench.
His number one goalkeeper is in a poor run of form with a dreadful display yesterday.
Midfield is weaker than last year in Division 1 with Morrell discarded.
His number one striker probably won’t play again this year 
Transfer activity is almost absent and not changing.
New boys Farrell and Murphy are injured.
Not much good news at all.
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#34
04-08-2024, 12:17 PM
(04-08-2024, 12:09 PM)BlueView Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 11:52 AM)slayer Wrote: I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

Well, he’s had since July to decide on the team, after 6 weeks training, a week in Croatia, and 6 friendlies.
Poole and McIntyre are still unable to play since last year, so there’s no spare centre half for the bench.
His number one goalkeeper is in a poor run of form with a dreadful display yesterday.
Midfield is weaker than last year in Division 1 with Morrell discarded.
His number one striker probably won’t play again this year 
Transfer activity is almost absent and not changing.
New boys Farrell and Murphy are injured.
Not much good news at all.

McIntyre played an hour of the friendly at Bognor and had a goal disallowed.Is he injured again?

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#35
04-08-2024, 12:35 PM
I was probably Raggett's biggest critic last season but I miss him now. We are light. Swanson as a full back?
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#36
04-08-2024, 03:19 PM
I'm hoping we have a top quality loans for both centre half and centre forward. We could almost guarantee starting time for a month or three while we get one of each fit.

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#37
04-08-2024, 03:33 PM
(04-08-2024, 12:35 PM)slayer Wrote: I was probably Raggett's biggest critic last season but I miss him now. We are light. Swanson as a full back?

Swanson is fine as a full back - I was at yesterday's game. A far bigger problem was Williams at centre back. Would have preferred to see Shaughnessy move over to right side centre back and Towler (who played well at left back when he came on) as left side centre back. Swanson IMO is an excellent right back who could well flourish in the Champ. Our midfield looked particularly week yesterday - we missed Pack and cannot work out how Neil Allen gave Moxon an 8.
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04-08-2024, 03:39 PM
If needed, Swanson might well be able to play right mid, especially away from home. Defensive role with some chances to cross.

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#39
04-08-2024, 04:14 PM
Swanson reads the game really well. I remember thinking that on several occasions last season when he came across to cover situations. Agree also that he could probably play midfield as he's skilful.
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#40
04-08-2024, 10:55 PM
(04-08-2024, 12:09 PM)BlueView Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 11:52 AM)slayer Wrote: I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

Well, he’s had since July to decide on the team, after 6 weeks training, a week in Croatia, and 6 friendlies.
Poole and McIntyre are still unable to play since last year, so there’s no spare centre half for the bench.
His number one goalkeeper is in a poor run of form with a dreadful display yesterday.
Midfield is weaker than last year in Division 1 with Morrell discarded.
His number one striker probably won’t play again this year 
Transfer activity is almost absent and not changing.
New boys Farrell and Murphy are injured.
Not much good news at all.

Seems to be a reasonably accurate assessment.
After all the hard work last season the present situation is all very sad.
Still there will always be two significant benefits.
We will continue to be sustainable and we'll certainly never have a problem with financial fair play!!

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04-08-2024, 11:45 PM
(04-08-2024, 10:55 PM)blueandwight Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 12:09 PM)BlueView Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 11:52 AM)slayer Wrote: I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

Well, he’s had since July to decide on the team, after 6 weeks training, a week in Croatia, and 6 friendlies.
Poole and McIntyre are still unable to play since last year, so there’s no spare centre half for the bench.
His number one goalkeeper is in a poor run of form with a dreadful display yesterday.
Midfield is weaker than last year in Division 1 with Morrell discarded.
His number one striker probably won’t play again this year 
Transfer activity is almost absent and not changing.
New boys Farrell and Murphy are injured.
Not much good news at all.

Seems to be a reasonably accurate assessment.
After all the hard work last season the present situation is all very sad.
Still there will always be two significant benefits.
We will continue to be sustainable and we'll certainly never have a problem with financial fair play!!


Hardly makes last season's effort worthwhile, if all we are going to do is go down straight away. Basically, we have NOT brought in at least 3 or 4 real quality players. You don't progress in English football on the cheap.
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05-08-2024, 05:24 AM
Who says?

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05-08-2024, 07:34 AM
(04-08-2024, 10:55 PM)blueandwight Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 12:09 PM)BlueView Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 11:52 AM)slayer Wrote: I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

Well, he’s had since July to decide on the team, after 6 weeks training, a week in Croatia, and 6 friendlies.
Poole and McIntyre are still unable to play since last year, so there’s no spare centre half for the bench.
His number one goalkeeper is in a poor run of form with a dreadful display yesterday.
Midfield is weaker than last year in Division 1 with Morrell discarded.
His number one striker probably won’t play again this year 
Transfer activity is almost absent and not changing.
New boys Farrell and Murphy are injured.
Not much good news at all.

Seems to be a reasonably accurate assessment.
After all the hard work last season the present situation is all very sad.
Still there will always be two significant benefits.
We will continue to be sustainable and we'll certainly never have a problem with financial fair play!!


Have  a bit of faith. 
We are lucky enough to have a fantastic manager finally married with an equallly adept recruitment team who have not let us down. We have three weeks of the transfer window left - plenty of time to get the RIGHT players to see us out to the end of the year. 
One point about Morrell....I would have liked him to have stayed as he was often the engine room of our midfield. I see he is still a free agent. Does anyone know if he is still injured?

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05-08-2024, 08:48 AM
Exterm knows (yes, he is).

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05-08-2024, 08:59 AM
(04-08-2024, 12:35 PM)slayer Wrote: I was probably Raggett's biggest critic last season but I miss him now. We are light. Swanson as a full back?
Ragget should have been kept as back up. Bad decision there.
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05-08-2024, 09:08 AM
(05-08-2024, 07:34 AM)Gerry Hatrick Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 10:55 PM)blueandwight Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 12:09 PM)BlueView Wrote:
(04-08-2024, 11:52 AM)slayer Wrote: I see both sides. The score isn't important. Individual fitnesses, performances, gelling the team so it is a minimum viable unit before the first game of the season, that all matters, and that's why Mous is fuming

Well, he’s had since July to decide on the team, after 6 weeks training, a week in Croatia, and 6 friendlies.
Poole and McIntyre are still unable to play since last year, so there’s no spare centre half for the bench.
His number one goalkeeper is in a poor run of form with a dreadful display yesterday.
Midfield is weaker than last year in Division 1 with Morrell discarded.
His number one striker probably won’t play again this year 
Transfer activity is almost absent and not changing.
New boys Farrell and Murphy are injured.
Not much good news at all.

Seems to be a reasonably accurate assessment.
After all the hard work last season the present situation is all very sad.
Still there will always be two significant benefits.
We will continue to be sustainable and we'll certainly never have a problem with financial fair play!!


Have  a bit of faith. 
We are lucky enough to have a fantastic manager finally married with an equallly adept recruitment team who have not let us down. We have three weeks of the transfer window left - plenty of time to get the RIGHT players to see us out to the end of the year. 
One point about Morrell....I would have liked him to have stayed as he was often the engine room of our midfield. I see he is still a free agent. Does anyone know if he is still injured?

Agreed but they can only pull so many rabbits out of the hat! To be competitive in this division you have to invest a decent budget. I'm not convinced the Eisners are prepared to do so. The Leeds score line could be embarrassing.

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05-08-2024, 09:43 AM
Sheffield Wednesday had an atrocious start to last season but managed to improve as it progressed and stayed up.

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05-08-2024, 10:29 AM
(05-08-2024, 09:43 AM)Slagger Wrote: Sheffield Wednesday had an atrocious start to last season but managed to improve as it progressed and stayed up.


OMG that kind of start would have people on here throwing themselves off the end of South Parade Pier.
They lost 13 out the first 17 matches and only recorded their first win on the last Saturday of October.
And still survived.
Thanks for that bit of perspective, Slagger.
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05-08-2024, 10:30 AM
I've been looking at our fixtures and Leeds is the least of our worries. 

It sounds mad to actually say it, but I can't see our first point coming until we play our 8th or 9th league game against Stoke or Oxford respectively.

Our fixtures before that are pretty awful for a newly promoted team that has lost key players and is worse than the team that went up. We play all the top teams.

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05-08-2024, 11:06 AM
(05-08-2024, 10:30 AM)TitchfieldBlue Wrote: I've been looking at our fixtures and Leeds is the least of our worries. 

It sounds mad to actually say it, but I can't see our first point coming until we play our 8th or 9th league game against Stoke or Oxford respectively.

Our fixtures before that are pretty awful for a newly promoted team that has lost key players and is worse than the team that went up. We play all the top teams.
Blue tit, nothing you say sounds mad ! 

Return flights from USA.   £1400
Hotels, 3 days presume.   £100
Ticket, hospitality, table for one ?   £100
meals, beer, taxis, transport etc.           £300
misc £100

Thats £2k !

All that way to travel and you have predicted a thrashing by Leeds. Why do it to yourself ?
With that money you could go to turkey and get your teeth and barnet sorted,
or pattaya, get a temporary wife.
or Get a latex blow up girlfriend, simply choose someone, ( Jordan, Penny M, Maggie Thatcher, anyone ) get their photo and dimensions and send it to china and back comes a ready made girlfriend. 
Then you will have someone to speak to.
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