[Cleaver Greene]

Yet again Ogilvie not tight enough to the winger. How many more time will he allow a bloke 12 yards to pick a cross out?

Which passage of play are you referring to?

Passage of play? The one for their equaliser. Stood off the winger and turned his back on the cross as well. Grow a pair and stand up to the ball. Its only a football FFS. If the goalkeeper turned his back on every shot he faced we would want his b0llocks on a platter.
Have a look at the goals we have conceded so far. Loads of them from their right wing when OG stands off the winger. He should be tighter and showing him down the outside, not stand 12 yards away allowing him to pick a cross out.
At this level we cant afford defending like that.

[Cunninglinguist]

Yet again Ogilvie not tight enough to the winger. How many more time will he allow a bloke 12 yards to pick a cross out?

Which passage of play are you referring to?

Passage of play? The one for their equaliser. Stood off the winger and turned his back on the cross as well. Grow a pair and stand up to the ball. Its only a football FFS. If the goalkeeper turned his back on every shot he faced we would want his b0llocks on a platter.
Have a look at the goals we have conceded so far. Loads of them from their right wing when OG stands off the winger. He should be tighter and showing him down the outside, not stand 12 yards away allowing him to pick a cross out.
At this level we cant afford defending like that.

Turned his back????

[DeepBlue]

Ogilvie was tracking the no 2, quite correctly, which is why the overlapping player had space. When they overload like that it is the responsibility of the wide left player to get back as well.  

So blame Murphy for that, not Ogilvie.  If he had left the no 2 and the ball gone to him instead then Ogilvie woud have been to blame. 

And he didn't turn his back on the shot until it was well past him.

[Cunninglinguist]

Ogilvie was tracking the no 2, quite correctly, which is why the overlapping player had space. When they overload like that it is the responsibility of the wide left player to get back as well.  

So blame Murphy for that, not Ogilvie.  If he had left the no 2 and the ball gone to him instead then Ogilvie woud have been to blame. 

And he didn't turn his back on the shot until it was well past him.

That’s exactly how I saw it.

[dsmg]

There’s another way Mikey

[mikey393]

Massive point if you consider the realative club's investment this season.
Swans: £100M
Pompey: £20M
No need to do the maths is there?

[Hammie]

watching the OG back, it was a tough ball in to defend and he had to do something with it, on that occasion he miskicked it into the goal, he should have had an assist to go with it, although, again there was a Swansea player up our players backside doing their job.

[dsmg]

Massive point if you consider the realative club's investment this season.
Swans: £100M
Pompey: £20M
No need to do the maths is there?

True Mikey altho' Whitts made a funny comment when one of theirs made a right cock-up just after Andy Moon had said what he cost. ´You don't get much for 2 million these days`.

[West Australian Portsmouth Fan]

Swan Draught - Unremarkable bland Aussie lager. Best drunk ice cold on a red hot day 6/10

Not that bad I'd say 7/10. Did you go to the old Swan Brewery in Canning Vale?

No, I can’t say I did

[Hermann's_no_hermit]

Reuben Swann - 5. Can't even get a start for the Hawks

[blueandwight]

Massive point if you consider the realative club's investment this season.
Swans: £100M
Pompey: £20M
No need to do the maths is there?

The maths, or should that be math if you're (un)fortunate enough to have American owners, is really simple.
The difficulty is obtaining a detailed explanation why this is the case.

[West Australian Portsmouth Fan]

A bit disappointed the thread title was changed. The best bit was Slayers ratings of actual swan species and now his swan ratings don’t match the title of the thread. Oh well…

[Cunninglinguist]

Might as well swan off then.

[dsmg]

Looks like my ratings page has disappeared or been mingled with Who am I’sthread? Christ, with the effort I put in!!!

[Gerry Hatrick]

Don't worry, dsmg. I'm looking forward to your ratings of Bristols on Saturday.

[West Australian Portsmouth Fan]

Might as well swan off then.

I’ll have to make this post my swan song for this thread then

[Cunninglinguist]

Might as well swan off then.

I’ll have to make this post my swan song for this thread then

Grrrrr I hate competition 

[BabaOReally]

Massive point if you consider the realative club's investment this season.
Swans: £100M
Pompey: £20M
No need to do the maths is there?

Pompey averaging 5000 more at home than Sawnsea. 

Also not hard to do the maths on sustainability and who's the more fooked if things go pop.

[Prickles]

Ah man. To be fair Deep was right, I was far too generous towards Mute Swan

[Pompey_in_Derby]

Ogilvie was tracking the no 2, quite correctly, which is why the overlapping player had space. When they overload like that it is the responsibility of the wide left player to get back as well.  

So blame Murphy for that, not Ogilvie.  If he had left the no 2 and the ball gone to him instead then Ogilvie woud have been to blame. 

And he didn't turn his back on the shot until it was well past him.

That’s exactly how I saw it.

The equaliser was down to the useless lino (the one with the yellow flag). Was a clear Pompey throw but the idiot gave it to Swansea and this led directly to their goal. Reckon Moose saw it on video which is why he was booked for his reaction!

[Daniel]

I’d give Schmid 10
Ogilve 5 at best


They all looked rusty and knackered (not match fit) near the end

Watched ITV Highlights & totally agree Schmidt is a definite 10!

Without his miraculous saves we could have lost 6-2.

Ogilvie O.G. was unfortunate if you watch carefully hevwas under a lot of pressure & tried to put behind so a 6 for me.

How can you rate players based on watching highlights?

Because I have! Impossible to watch the full game live unless living abroad.

I watched the game using a VPN 

Ogilve was poor and has been pretty poor all season.

[Prickles]

I want to qualify that and say poor in relative terms to the Championship. I don't think he has persistently played badly (maybe yes one or twice) but I think he's getting outclassed in this league.

There was a risk of it and a 2 year deal was reasonable.

There have been games where he has done well and he has scored at this level but the IMO he is a net negative in stopping a goal now and I think we will see a new signing arrive to challenge Farrell.

[Daniel]

I want to qualify that and say poor in relative terms to the Championship. I don't think he has persistently played badly (maybe yes one or twice) but I think he's getting outclassed in this league.

There was a risk of it and a 2 year deal was reasonable.

There have been games where he has done well and he has scored at this level but the IMO he is a net negative in stopping a goal now and I think we will see a new signing arrive to challenge Farrell.

I’d be after a new left back in January if we could get a top loan. We concede so many chances down that side

[DeepBlue]

Ogilvie was tracking the no 2, quite correctly, which is why the overlapping player had space. When they overload like that it is the responsibility of the wide left player to get back as well.  

So blame Murphy for that, not Ogilvie.  If he had left the no 2 and the ball gone to him instead then Ogilvie woud have been to blame. 

And he didn't turn his back on the shot until it was well past him.

That’s exactly how I saw it.

The equaliser was down to the useless lino (the one with the yellow flag). Was a clear Pompey throw but the idiot gave it to Swansea and this led directly to their goal. Reckon Moose saw it on video which is why he was booked for his reaction!

Moon & Whitts reckoned neither the linesman nor ref had made a decision on the throw before they took it, which was why Mousinho was complaining.

[Cunninglinguist]

Ogilvie was tracking the no 2, quite correctly, which is why the overlapping player had space. When they overload like that it is the responsibility of the wide left player to get back as well.  

So blame Murphy for that, not Ogilvie.  If he had left the no 2 and the ball gone to him instead then Ogilvie woud have been to blame. 

And he didn't turn his back on the shot until it was well past him.

That’s exactly how I saw it.

The equaliser was down to the useless lino (the one with the yellow flag). Was a clear Pompey throw but the idiot gave it to Swansea and this led directly to their goal. Reckon Moose saw it on video which is why he was booked for his reaction!

Moon & Whitts reckoned neither the linesman nor ref had made a decision on the throw before they took it, which was why Mousinho was complaining.

They had a valid point but there was an extensive passage of play before the goal and so it had little bearing on the matter. It would be a bit like blaming the result on the kickoff.