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#1
17-07-2021, 06:56 AM
and to try and gauge if there is a problem with racism at our club'

In the last ten years has anyone experience any incident that could be described as racist in or around Fratton Park?

I've attended with at least 3 ethnic minority people in that period and have not experienced a single moment of "hatred".

So has anyone anything to report?

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17-07-2021, 07:25 AM
As I’ve said before, there is no racism on display at the Park and if any reared it’s head it would not be tolerated by the crowd.

Time to forget all the bollox and move on, if we don’t we might as well give up.

I know the burgeoning race industry wants this division on racial lines to continue but the rest of us need to fight back against it.

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17-07-2021, 07:40 AM
I normally manage 22 home league games per season (never there on Boxing Day if Pompey are at home) plus a handful of away trips. Never seen or heard of anything which could be called "hatred. I agree with Gaff, there is no racism on display at the Park, time to move on.

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17-07-2021, 08:38 AM
Gaff t5hat is exactly why i made my post.

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17-07-2021, 09:34 AM
Not since the mid-eighties. Or in other words before the players were born.

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17-07-2021, 10:06 AM
It would seem the trend has generally gone from the 'terraces' and moved to social media

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17-07-2021, 12:05 PM
(17-07-2021, 10:06 AM)Tomsk Wrote: It would seem the trend has generally gone from the 'terraces' and moved to social media

Even that is not totally true Tomsk.

Despite the hysteria from the media, most of the overtly racist posts didn’t come from the UK but that doesn’t fit their ‘racist country’ narrative.

Similarly the defacing of the Rashford mural was nothing to do with racism, it was just common vandalism. That didn’t stop the Independent and others from labelling it racist though.

Those that did originate in the UK will be investigated and there will be a few ‘knocks on doors’ I have no doubt.

This is NOT a racist country and Pompey is NOT a racist club.

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17-07-2021, 01:39 PM
5 arrests so far, one of whom went to a Manchester Police Station of his own accord

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17-07-2021, 03:04 PM
(17-07-2021, 01:39 PM)Northstander Wrote: 5 arrests so far, one of whom went to a Manchester Police Station of his own accord

And?

Not exactly indicative of a society infested with racism is it?

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17-07-2021, 03:18 PM
Gaffs please don't fall into his trap. This is about pompey fans and as far as i can see FP is not in manchester.

I think it's a case of a leftie not likening the truth so turns to weasleing.

Lets find out if anyone has experienced a problem i our own back yard.

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17-07-2021, 05:38 PM (This post was last modified: 17-07-2021, 05:39 PM by Northstander.)
(17-07-2021, 03:04 PM)exgaffer Wrote:
(17-07-2021, 01:39 PM)Northstander Wrote: 5 arrests so far, one of whom went to a Manchester Police Station of his own accord

And?

Not exactly indicative of a society infested with racism is 

You posted a few knocks on the door being likely and I pointed out the number of arrests so far.  I'm sure there will be more arrests.........

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17-07-2021, 05:42 PM
(17-07-2021, 03:18 PM)muschi Wrote: Gaffs please don't fall into his trap. This is about pompey fans and as far as i can see FP is not in manchester.

I think it's a case of a leftie not likening the truth so turns to weasleing.

Lets find out if anyone has experienced a problem i our own back yard.

Me a Leftie ?  Tongue Tongue   Tongue

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17-07-2021, 06:25 PM
I did see somebody eating a banana once.

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17-07-2021, 06:59 PM
A few lines from Chris Kamara..... "Some racist fans used to chuck bananas at the players and I even played with some racist players. I would get in the team bath and then one or two – I won’t name names – would get out. The game has thankfully moved on now."

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17-07-2021, 07:24 PM
(17-07-2021, 06:59 PM)Northstander Wrote: A few lines from Chris Kamara..... "Some racist fans used to  chuck bananas at the players and I even played with some racist players. I would get in the team bath and then one or two – I won’t name names – would get out. The game has thankfully moved on now."

He's definitely seen all sides of this issue.

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17-07-2021, 07:34 PM
He has for sure TBP

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17-07-2021, 09:59 PM
As you seem determined to take this thread off track, I will add some words about Chris Kamara.

It was shortly after his transfer to Swindon, we were away to them with a decent following of fans for a midweek game.

Ck was on the pitch pre game warming up and the majority of pompey wans were chanting N**ger N N Ck just turned towards them, Smiled and raised an arm in salute then carried on with his warm up. They stopped their baiting and went very quiet.

It was a very dignified response and in my mind I can still see it. He remains a hero to me.

He could teach todays multi millionaire prima donnas a lot about being a man.

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17-07-2021, 10:16 PM (This post was last modified: 17-07-2021, 10:19 PM by Tufnell_Chimes.)
Jeeez Mooosh, you will never ever get it.

Go google the story of Esther Bajarano, she died last week aged 96. I’m not saying its a perfect analogy, and the Godwins Law looms large, but it demonstrates what people do under subjugation. If you can’t change it, how do you survive it?

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17-07-2021, 10:34 PM
Half the so called perceived rascism in this country is bollocks. We are among the most tolerant in Europe. But us being us, we cannot celebrate the huge progress we have made, we have to look at beating ourselves up for the fine tuning that we haven’t got round to sorting yet!

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17-07-2021, 10:52 PM
Smirns, its true, I think at one point we were the most, or at least one of the most, tolerant. And even that phrase feels dodgy - celebrating the notion that we tolerate… that can’t be right. However, post-Brexit that’s all out the window. We’re back in the 70s, all prejudice has been validated - the Culture War Unit inside No.10 is fully funded.

Lets all talk about this and fight amongst ourselves whilst the NHS becomes an americanised insurance system and the tory’s biggest donors - property developers can do whatever they want.

The culture war bollocks is just a massive dead cat.

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17-07-2021, 10:53 PM
Doe the dozy moron ever read anything and understand it?

Does he really think when he gives one of his headmaster dictates I an going to bother with-it?

One day he will wake up and realise he is part of the problem not the solution.

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17-07-2021, 11:01 PM (This post was last modified: 17-07-2021, 11:05 PM by Tufnell_Chimes.)
Mooosh I’m past caring what you do with it. Your brain is in aspic, its like one of those flies caught in amber with nothing surrounding it. A lonely thought desperate for context in a world that has moved on.

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18-07-2021, 09:43 AM
Haha like you've moved on from brexit?. 

pratt.

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18-07-2021, 10:14 AM
There is exactly the same amount of racism in the UK now as there was pre Brexit, not very much.

The racism that does exist does not exist only among white people either, despite the laughable contention that only white people can be racist.

We have to all live together in these islands, we can either keep emphasising difference and be in constant conflict, or just get on with life.

I suggest the latter path.

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18-07-2021, 11:18 AM (This post was last modified: 18-07-2021, 11:19 AM by Tufnell_Chimes.)
Mooosh don't know if you've noticed but Brexit is still ongoing, and will be ongoing for years and years and years. Just because your little head is bored of it, doesn't mean its over.

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