09-09-2021, 04:25 PM
(09-09-2021, 02:02 PM)teeftwo Wrote: Oh do get in the sea Jizbag. Have you actually read or attempted to understand anything I've just told you?
I have supplied you with links from the BMA and an independent immunology group. Apart from enrolling you in an actual medical degree I'm struggling with how to bring your understanding up from the level of the lowest percentile of Sun reader. You obviously would rather believe Carol from Facebook and some tin foil hat wearing knob jockey on YouTube than actual scientists, medical professionals and PhD qualified virologists.
The over 80's were the first to get fully vaccinated and death rates in that age group have fallen. As the number of adults fully vaccinated increases so will death rates decrease.
Even though I have already stated it I'll say it again, a vaccine does not stop you getting a disease, it's not a magic shield. It does give your body the tools (T cells) to fight the disease. In the best case scenario you never notice it was there, in some cases you might feel a little dodgy. Some unlucky people will still get ill, maybe hospitalised and and some will even die. But the vast majority won't. Vastly more won't than if we didn't take the vaccine.
Try to understand the basic concepts, it's so important not to die from being a thicky.
So you aren't a virologist or anything else. You've just read it online. And I reiterate the situation with Israel. And in fact this country where the number of infections appear to have increased hugely since people started taking the vaccine.
If I were you I'd stop trying to pretend you know everything about the vaccine. If the vaccine truly worked to the degree the government said it did then the clamour for vaccine passports would be redundant as everyone who wanted to be vaccinated would be protected from the virus. But it now appears that it's not the wonderful saviour that we were told, hence people still wearing masks (pointless) and a government u turn on vaccine passports.
If you're a healthy young person then why on earth would you want to take the risk of an emergency vaccine? But now it seems your life choices are dramatically reduced unless you go down that route. How on earth is that possibly fair and democratic? Everyone should have a right to choose what goes into their body and their rights shouldn't be compromised based upon their decision. Anyone who thinks this is an ok thing needs their head examined imho.